Matt77
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RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)
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17-10-2017 15:07 |
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Jack the Nipper
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RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)
(17-10-2017 15:49 )HannahsPet Wrote: Labour are fuckwits they are saying leave but keep everything which means we pay and have no say in anything which is fucking stupid idea might as well stay in but they wont say that because they wouldnt survive a GE if they did
We are fucked either way
Whilst I'm not particularly happy with the Government & their dithering they are merely dealing with the lack of any preparation for the possibility of a 'Leave' vote which falls on the shoulders of Cameron & wannabe serial murderer Gideon Osborne.
Labour are deceitful & treacherous at best as they clearly stated in their mainfesto that they would leave the Single Market & The Custom's Union thus gained votes from many Leavers & Ukip voters on that premise.And now slippery eel in the shape of Keir Starmer was seen at the weekend talking about a u-turn in staying in both even after transition.
Putting Keir in charge of Shadow Brexit Minister with his chequered past a Lawyer representing companies like Michon DeRea (who represented Gina Miller when she took the government to court last year) isn't the smartest move on Corbyn's part.
Labour are in a conundrum where a majority of their MP's are staunch remainers & yet 2 in 3 Labour constituancies voted for 'Leave'.This combined with the fact in the GE 84% of the electorate voted for parties that advocated leaving the EU & the Single Market/Customs Union & only 16% voting for parties who advocated Remaining in the EU.
Corbyn who always historically has been a Eurosceptic & yet claims he'd vote Remain is being quite disingenuous.Corbyn's big flagship policy in Re-Nationalizing & State-Aid in Utilities & Industries (clearly one of the reasons why he was a Eurosceptic)is illegal in EU Law so how would he square that circle.
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17-10-2017 16:30 |
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The Silent Majority
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RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)
Anybody who thinks that, if we walk away, they'll come running after us with a trade deal is in cloud-cuckoo land. There won't be anything that could be called a trade deal because that would look humiliating for them. What they'll do is start making 'back room' deals on individual commodities, starting with whoever is squealing the loudest (probably the car manufacturers).
This will be fine if you're a big company with a loud voice, but there are thousands of small and medium size companies who depend on the single market and won't get a look in until it's too late, for them.
But hey, as long as they're not quoted on the stock market, nobody will notice or care. Certainly not the Brexiteers. They'll be too busy up Trump's arse looking for the "quick and easy" trade deal he promised. Him being a firm advocate of free trade, and a man of his word...
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17-10-2017 19:58 |
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