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(01-05-2010 22:24 )H-H Wrote:  Ofcom claim that PIN protection is not strong enough, so kids could see it. That is the only reason Ofcom have given in the 6 years since they were created.

yet the government are happy with a pin system for bank cards!!
01-05-2010 22:28
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(01-05-2010 22:24 )H-H Wrote:  ...Ofcom claim that PIN protection is not strong enough, so kids could see it. That is the only reason Ofcom have given in the 6 years since they were created.

And yet they do allow some stronger content under encryption, so they must deem that ok for kids to see(?).

(01-05-2010 18:13 )aceman65 Wrote:  ...have a licensing system to allow TV channels to show it. Then the channels can purchase a license according to there requirements.

Sounds perfectly sensible - licensed encrypted channels. Yes, potentially kids could access it, just like they could find and watch your 18-rated DVDs, play with the kitchen knives, take your car keys and go for a ride etc. etc. although those are acheived much easier.

Licensed sex shops I can understand - to protect people from walking into any shop and being confronted with such material (not that WH Smith would set up a latest-release porn stand by the doors). That's exactly what PIN protection does, protect people from just dropping in and being exposed without want or warning.

This is going slightly off-topic of new channels now, apologies mods, you might want to split to Broadcasting Regulations.
02-05-2010 11:17
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Not sure if I'm asking the question in the right forum, but here goes; before I had SKY I used to watch PARTY PEOPLE/GIRLS on a regular basis & one of my favourites on nights was NATALIE (aka JET BLACK) who always looked as if she was going to fall out of what she was almost wearing; lots of texts to show telling her to "get yer tits out",responded to by "PARTY BOY" or "IRISH PARTY BOY" that it was not allowed as it was not an "ADULT" show; that being so why the fuck must you be "over the age of 18 & have the bill payer's permission" to interact with the show? In my world if it's not an ADULT show then it's suitable for children; seems we have a bunch of retards making rules about something they know little about, to me those regulations are a contradiction in terms & affront on your human rights.
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03-05-2010 17:37
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(03-05-2010 17:37 )RRROGER Wrote:  lots of texts to show telling her to "get yer tits out",responded to by "PARTY BOY" or "IRISH PARTY BOY" that it was not allowed as it was not an "ADULT" show; that being so why the fuck must you be "over the age of 18 & have the bill payer's permission" to interact with the show?

Because live entertainment services can only be marketed to those of 18 and over (even if the entertainment is childlike).
03-05-2010 19:27
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sorry if already been asked,but why can you go to your local shop and buy a hardcore porn mag for 4 or 5 quid. but the same stuff is not allowed on tv meaning the 900 channels.
when i was a kid the easiest thing to bump into was a porn mag which if people where honest would agree.
so to me the law never has and never will any make sense to me.

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03-05-2010 20:13
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Well now I don't know about you but I'm counting the days down to the general election and assuming the Labour party get defeated ofcom will be officialy fucked and good ridence to them too and end of govenment state quangos. The pesimists and plenty of them of this forum will still say the babe channels will get hammered even more when the new govenment comes into power but believe me when I say it the rules will be more relaxed and come next month full frontal pussy shows will be a thing of the norm. Even David Cameron says Labour are running the country like a nanny state besides the new govenment has more pressing issues in his mind such as the economy to think about and getting rid of ofcom is pretty much a stamp of approval that he couldn't give a fuck about intefering with late night adult channels.
03-05-2010 20:34
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(03-05-2010 20:34 )Scottishbloke Wrote:  believe me when I say it the rules will be more relaxed and come next month full frontal pussy shows will be a thing of the norm.

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03-05-2010 21:17
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(02-05-2010 11:17 )lucent-x Wrote:  ... Licensed sex shops I can understand - to protect people from walking into any shop and being confronted with such material (not that WH Smith would set up a latest-release porn stand by the doors). That's exactly what PIN protection does, protect people from just dropping in and being exposed without want or warning.

And yet French family friendly supermarkets openly sell hardcore DVDs, 2 shelves above the equivalent of TV Quick.

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04-05-2010 00:26
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Ofcom created as tribute to MARY WHITEHOUSE???.......remember her???
All the issues are a result of our entrenched "Victorian" culture which over a number of years has gradually relaxed so that back then showing your ankle would get you arrested, now you can get away with showing your knee; but it is this culture that is propping up the adult entertainment industry; if all the things that we lust after or just want to look at were all on display why would anybody pay money for it.
Don't think there's much of a porn market in some 3rd world countries where it's normal to go around naked; if it was normal here, babe shows such as on SKY could broadcast round the clock with no restriction ,boring after a while; change channels, get some excitement watching "Dickinson's Real Deal".

04-05-2010 13:31
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Audiovisual Media Directive

Ofcom have stated that The Audiovisual Media Services Directive (2010/13/EU) will enter into force on the 5th May 2010. The Audiovisual Media Services Directive is the European regulatory framework for television broadcasting, and replaces the Television Without Frontiers Directive (89/552/EEC, as amended by Directive 97/36/EC).
Therefore, Ofcom must vary all television licences to reflect this, and is currently consulting with existing licensees on the relevant amendments.

This consultation will close on 20th May. I believe this consultation is to allow licensees to comment on the way Ofcom should (will, have) interpret(ed) the directive in relation to content, protection of children, product placement etc...

For any application for a TLCS licence (Linear TV Service) which are granted prior to 6th May, the new licensee will be invited to join the ongoing consultation (and will have a minimum of two weeks to make representations on the proposed licence variations).

However, in order to enable Ofcom to complete the consultation process and vary all licences appropriately, no new TLCS licences will be granted during a period commencing on 7 May and ending when all licences have been varied. They cannot state definitively when this moratorium on the granting of licences will end, but it is expected to be able to re-commence granting new TLCS licences in June, if all goes well and licensees agree to Ofcom's interpretation otherwise there may be greater delay, especially if a legal challenge is made.

I hope that this process does not impact on the granting of any transfer application as i am aware that new operator Bluebird is seeking to operate some existing channels as well as start new channels.

Current Ofcom rules state that licenses must be transferred, with the transfer not having effect until approved by Ofcom to ensure licensees can comply with licence conditions, fit and proper test etc... This can be a lengthy process in itself.

A further post will discuss the relevant changes between the Audiovisual Media Services Directive and the Television Without Frontiers Directive.

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04-05-2010 19:49
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