Aceman's Farewell To Bangbabes

I have several issues here. Firstly (and on the cynical / paranoid side), why should we believe any channel that claims complaints have been backed up by material from this or any other forum. I mean, lets be honest, who, when complaining, is going to say "I saw this happen, and if you want proof you can go to babeshows.co.uk and look it up". I mean, really, someone offended by adult material admits to both watching it, and then trawling websites to find recordings of the evidence, and still claims to be offended by it all - what a load of rubbish. Much more likely it's a false justification by the channel to try and make us see it as necessary removal of clips rather than the heavy-handed response it actually is.

2nd, the sooner Ofcom has it's complaints regime changed the better. The majority of complaints are from rival channels (I believe I read this somewhere, but not sure where), and the rest are from people who "accidentally watched a babe channel just at the moment it did something it wasn't supposed to". Again, what a load of rubbish. The chances of someone who is likely to be offended by this stuff a) accidentally being on an adult channel and b) having the 2 seconds it takes them to realise what they're watching and switch over be the same two seconds an "incident" happens are incredibly small. I mean, even when Amanda has been at her rudest I doubt if there was 2 minutes of actual bad behaviour when the incidents are added together for a particular night. That's two minutes out of say 8 hours of viewing. On 1 out of about 25 channels. So, between all the channels you might get say 5 mins of material on a really rude night. Roughly speaking you have a chance of 0.04% of actually hitting anything worth reporting. Or to put it another way, you have to accidentally switch to a babe show 2400 times before you get something worth reporting.

So, Ofcom should only accept complaints from genuine viewers, who are not employed in the adult industry, and who can supply date and time of the incident. In fact, I'd be prepared to go further and say I'd be happy for Sky to keep a record of what channel changes I make (and when) so that I could prove I was watching what I was offended by. I've had a complaint refused before on the grounds I believe porn should be allowed on the tv, so why should rival channels be allowed to complain.

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If certain people want to ban all decussion and debate, then why call this a forum at all?

I was hoping by my initial statement, to try and get a responce from bangbabes themselves to explain their actions, but it seems they wish to remain in the shadows.

All the best

Ace

The discussion and debate is still going on over numerous threads Aceman65. The open nature of the forum has allowed it to amass 20k plus members. It also allows any Tom, Dick or Mary to stumble apon this forum and freely view most parts of the forum including caps and vid threads. For this reason, slips are being removed by most shows as rival shows seem to be reporting these incidents?

(08-10-2009 01:31 )Hofmiester Wrote:  we know OFCOM read these forums, it seems to be how they find out if there has been a slip up. Post somthing on here, and within 24 hours we get one of those dreaded demands for a complience tape.

Hofmiester is in charge of multiple babeshows.

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(08-12-2009 17:43 )Josh Wrote:  The discussion and debate is still going on over numerous threads Aceman65. The open nature of the forum has allowed it to amass 20k plus members. It also allows any Tom, Dick or Mary to stumble apon this forum and freely view most parts of the forum including caps and vid threads. For this reason, slips are being removed by most shows as rival shows seem to be reporting these incidents?

(08-10-2009 01:31 )Hofmiester Wrote:  we know OFCOM read these forums, it seems to be how they find out if there has been a slip up. Post somthing on here, and within 24 hours we get one of those dreaded demands for a complience tape.

Hofmiester is in charge of multiple babeshows.

Intriguing. I wonder what Ofcom's user name is?

If they really do browse this forum I'd love to get their take on the scores of well written and well reasoned posts which blow their pseudo arguments and double standards out of the water.

(08-12-2009 17:43 )Josh Wrote:  

(08-10-2009 01:31 )Hofmiester Wrote:  we know OFCOM read these forums, it seems to be how they find out if there has been a slip up. Post somthing on here, and within 24 hours we get one of those dreaded demands for a complience tape.

Hofmiester is in charge of multiple babeshows.

Well he didn't seem particulaly perturbed when I made the post about Asian Babes' 3G timing 'accident' - nor did he demand its removal.

(08-12-2009 16:56 )aceman65 Wrote:  I was hoping by my initial statement, to try and get a responce from bangbabes themselves to explain their actions, but it seems they wish to remain in the shadows.

There is nothing that Bang Babes can explain to you which hasn't been explained to you already.

You are also incorrect to imply that Bang Babes have made more requests to have material removed than other channels. That is simply untrue as there are 3 channels which have made more such requests than Bang Babes.

Couple more points.

1) Someone has already pointed out that in addition to clips and caps, there is a lot of DISCUSSION about various slips on these boards. Does that have to stop too? Cos it provides just as much information to an Ofcom mole as a clip does, and will enable them to go straight to the channel and demand their tape. In fact, if Ofcom are going to the trouble of searching forums for clips (which I doubt, as it goes beyond their remit and if pubicly known would cause them problems) then I'm sure they're also recording shows with reputations to have their own tapes anyway (just in case of "I'm sorry officer but the machine was broken" excuses)

2) If someone sees something that offends them, it stands to reason that they would report it fairly swiftly. So why not introduce a delay. For example, no clips or caps til at least 2 weeks after the event. Think of the excitement as you count down to the day a particularly juicy clip could finally be seen! After all, if you don't file a complaint until 2 weeks after it happened, how offended were you in the first place?!

and 3) Is this not also a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. If any of the clips here have been used in complaints, then the damage is already done. Fair enough to ask for future clips not to be posted, or to have the delay attached (see point 2!), but fairly pointless removing the ones that are already there. Bit like the kid with jam all over his face hiding the empty jar behind his back so he can pretend he didnt do it.

Is it just me or is this just a little OTT?

At the end of the day BB has the right to pull clips at their request especially if these clips are to be used against them as relating to a breach of ofcom rules.The fact that they allow us to post up clips is generous as they own the copyright so let's not all throw our toys out of the pram just because a channel has had to react in a censorous way over something it broadcast which may or may not result in a fine.If it does result in a fine...who pays?Not us that's for sure and that is the point.

Well said speedy.

the only problem with removing stuff which I understand from BB point of view is that there are people who will moan complain about anything the shows do just go to other forums I have read where they moan that there are 2 many of the channels fact is people will complain till the shows are gone

not knowing much about this but with them using stuff posted on here to complain does not the poster of said video have a case here dont they have some control over there own files

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