(23-01-2011 17:36 )HEX!T Wrote: seriously guys you cant compaire the 2. c4 runs off a different license so can show stronger content.
the babeshows are run off a advertising license, they are given that 1 because they sell premium rate phone calls.
its nothing to do with whether the girls get naked or not. its all about the advertisement. because the number is on screen for more than 12 min's in an hour the channel has to apply for an advertising license, and the rules for them are much much stricter.
they basically have to go by the rules that we see on ordinary channels that use adverts for revenue, like itv.
meaning no nudity in the adverts other than implied and certainly not b4 9pm. the babeshows get some leeway in this regard, and is why ofcom feel they already have been lenient with the shows as they could under the terms of the license ban all nudity altogether. so really its pointless saying well c4 showed this or that, because its the babeshows themselves that caused this problem by advertising phone numbers there primery source of income.
they could get reclassified as adult entertainment, if they removed the numbers from the screen to comply with adult channel advert legislation.
What has an advertising licence got to do with what the programmes can be permitted to show? If indeed OFCOM have made some exception for the babe channels, why are these same 'standards' not applicable to all advertising? Indeed, aren't the freeview ads for so-called 'adult' channels in the same regulatory boat - and aren't such ads far more explicit in content and language than anything we're condescendingly 'allowed' to watch on a babe channel?
The fact is, the on-screen content of a babe channel bears little or no relation to the actual service being provided on the phone line. The babe channels do not therefore advertise the actual service they provide on the phone lines. We can only conclude that the babe channels are NOT advertising the actual service provided but are merely a moving background to a rather boring ad for a static phone number.
As Scottishbloke points out above, there's virtually no adult erotic entertainment left on TV. I doubt very much this is through a lack of interest in such channels on the part of the viewers and is undoubtedly due to OFCOM's irrational and unjustifiable war on erotic TV.
I know I keep banging on about the law but, the Comms Act does NOT allow OFCOM to dictate what 'is' offensive and harmful material. The law does not say OFCOM can or should protect the public from marerial which 'might be' harmful or offensive or, which 'might be considered' harmful or offensive. The law states OFCOM are "to provide adequate protection to the public from the inclusion of offensive and harmful material" - no ifs, no maybes, no potentiallys. The material OFCOM are REQUIRED and thus legally ALLOWED to ban and censure MUST BE offensive and harmful according to the law and legal definitions.
Clearly, OFCOM's Code need only state that material banned by the BBFC, proscribed by law or otherwise deemed legally obscene "must not be broadcast at any time". Only be overstepping what the law actually permits, have OFCOM created a censorial regime which has no place whatsoever in a modern liberal democratic society...and indeed, did not exist prior to OFCOM's creation (as anyone who had $ky or cable TV 6 years ago can easily verify).
OFCOM were not created to completely decimate adult entertainment - but that's exactly what they've done.
OFCOM were supposed to create a wider chioce of channels and programming to cater to a wide variety of audience tastes - they have done exactly the opposite.
OFCOM have created a Code that is so vague and open to interpretation that there is no actual Standards Code and all that exists to guide programme makers are OFCOM's supposed 'findings' during their biased complaints proceedure - a complaints proceedure that relies totally on 'feelings' of supposed 'offence' rather than ACTUAL offensive and harmful content as described by law.
Offensive material is by definition attacking, malign, hurtful.
Harmful material is by definition that which causes damage.