Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(14-12-2017 22:35 )Doddle Wrote:  

(14-12-2017 15:09 )Jam Da Man Wrote:  Lately though, on reflection, I think it's right to blame the media for not explaining the potential consequences of Leaving, they obviously didn't feel the need to warn people about all this beforehand. Especially Sky News and many at the BBC who are now forever screeching & preaching the Remoaner side of things. Impartiality goes quickly out of the window when Brexit is the topic.

It is interesting that you say that, because I still support Remain, and to me, the BBC & Sky seem to be constantly pushing Brexit as a good thing, interviewing believers like IDS or Farage, and whenever anyone tries to say a word against, they bring up the 52% thing. Murdoch, for one, is unlikely to be against Brexit.

are you sure? Question Time 5 remoaners 1 brexit, week before 4 remoaners, 2 brexit??

You need more remainers in order to balance out the high levels of BS that spew from the Brexidiots

love it when we hard brexit....bolox to everyone trying to screw it up...

(14-12-2017 23:15 )cwpussylover Wrote:  are you sure? Question Time 5 remoaners 1 brexit, week before 4 remoaners, 2 brexit??

Lori Buckby, the tedious twins and Clare Richards might be my idea of hell, but still preferable to watching Question Time Dimbleby should be transferred to kids TV to be re-educated on what a proper presenter should at least be in the region of.

(14-12-2017 22:35 )Doddle Wrote:  

(14-12-2017 15:09 )Jam Da Man Wrote:  Lately though, on reflection, I think it's right to blame the media for not explaining the potential consequences of Leaving, they obviously didn't feel the need to warn people about all this beforehand. Especially Sky News and many at the BBC who are now forever screeching & preaching the Remoaner side of things. Impartiality goes quickly out of the window when Brexit is the topic.

It is interesting that you say that, because I still support Remain, and to me, the BBC & Sky seem to be constantly pushing Brexit as a good thing, interviewing believers like IDS or Farage, and whenever anyone tries to say a word against, they bring up the 52% thing. Murdoch, for one, is unlikely to be against Brexit.

It's maybe just a perception thing. If you're in favour of Brexit then you want it to succeed, and vice versa. Similar to supporting a football team. In the end we're all just viewers. Blame the referee!

This Sky News advert just before article 50 was triggered seemed like pure Remoaner material - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyAcru_XGm4
Jumping off a diving board (followed by some very dubious sound effects) and 'once we commit there's no going back' to an accompaniment of desolate music. Bloody awful.

They do have Brexiteer guests on (Farage was on yet again this morning) but the prevailing attitude from the presenters is forever one of defeatism and capitulation towards the EU, constantly talking down Britain's chances. Again, that's how they sound to me, maybe it's not the case.

Guess I'd best leave it at that, before I get accused of being Wackawoo in disguise, lol.

"The road to Good Intentions be paved with Hell"

^ One man's "talking down" is another man's realism.

(15-12-2017 14:16 )Jam Da Man Wrote:  It's maybe just a perception thing. If you're in favour of Brexit then you want it to succeed, and vice versa. Similar to supporting a football team. In the end we're all just viewers. Blame the referee!

This Sky News advert just before article 50 was triggered seemed like pure Remoaner material - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyAcru_XGm4
Jumping off a diving board (followed by some very dubious sound effects) and 'once we commit there's no going back' to an accompaniment of desolate music. Bloody awful.

They do have Brexiteer guests on (Farage was on yet again this morning) but the prevailing attitude from the presenters is forever one of defeatism and capitulation towards the EU, constantly talking down Britain's chances. Again, that's how they sound to me, maybe it's not the case.

Guess I'd best leave it at that, before I get accused of being Wackawoo in disguise, lol.

To be fair, the vexed question of who are invited as guests on news channels goes wider and deeper than just Brexit (eg the low number of disabled or EM people who apparently have opinions or can review newspapers).

Anyway, having had time to think I did see the Wetherspoons guy who is about 9 on the Farage scale was on BBC Breakfast last week, ranting away about Brexit without any effective response from the presenters.

Whereas Ken Clarke gets pretty much called a traitor whenever he appears.

Has David Davis quit yet?

That's only if he was "unfairly" forced out, I suppose

Whereas he was bang to rights (sort of)

^ Davis might argue that Green was not fired "over porn" but because of lying to parliament about it. ... Maybe Davis was on the side of a legal activity as much as Greens'?! (I know - silly me. )