Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

They got the Star that's about as naughty as it gets and OK magazine

For me the new low has come from the Telegraph's front page on Soros declaring him funding a secret plot to thwart Brexit when the advertising campaign has been publically declared. It has deep roots in anti-Semitism and it is very concerning to see it making its way onto the front page of a mainstream national newspaper

I think Soros is rich enough to look after himself.

The poor sods getting International Aid, that the Express keeps going after, are generally not.

The hypocrisy about the Soros story is that Arron Banks has flooded money into backing Farage and Brexit etc, but apparently that was just dandy to the likes of the Telegraph (is that still run by the Barclays who are, wait for it, very rich?)

sadly most of the international aid goes into corrupt pockets or funds nations who can afford nukes the people that need it..DONT get it

(09-02-2018 23:44 )cwpussylover Wrote:  sadly most of the international aid goes into corrupt pockets or funds nations who can afford nukes the people that need it..DONT get it

Maybe, but that just needs better governance, not cutting it altogether!

Cutting the money won't stop the corruption, will it?

(30-01-2018 16:27 )Jack the Nipper Wrote:  I voted leave knowing clearly it meant leaving the 'Single Market & the Customs Union' which was clearly stated by Cameron,Osborne & other Government ministers in debates & interviews prior to the EU vote.It was also articulated in the £9 million pro-eu publically funded literature the Government sent to every household which also stated that the Government would respect the result of the referendum whatever the result (but didn't say they wouldn't prepare for either result or Cameron resigning if he didn't get his way).

It does humour me when pro-eu politicians,newspaper columnists,tv commentators etc repeatedly trumpet the old line about people voting to leave to eu didn't vote to leave the single market as clearly remaining in it means accepting all the 4 freedoms of the eu.This would be like me saying to a remain voter that by staying in the EU means they would have to accept a single EU currency (dropping the pound),an ever closer union or accepting new EU expansion countries like Turkey,Ukraine etc it becomes meaningless,unfounded brick-bat throwing.

As for this 'so-called' leaked impact assessment projection of leaving the EU over the next 15 years by 'pro-eu' civil servants I wouldn't expect anything less from people who can't make predictions for the next 15 months let alone 15 years.
Scratch beneath the surface of it though & it's for projections for current existing models & makes no allowances for any potential trade deals.
Both EU & UK economies would suffer on a no/bad deal which is why I'm quietly confident a compromise deal will eventually be reached in a 'Canada' type deal.

Just for the record I'm not Jacob Rhys-Mogg in disguise.

Unfortunately Jack many others voted on the basis of not being informed like yourself and voted either out of emotion, ignorance or even worse prejudice. This whole exercise goes to show important decisions like this should not be done on a yes or no referendum but on full blown elections with fully costed and explained manifestos.

We also did not allow for the total incompetence of the May government. The job is too big for Davis i would say this should be a cross party effort but Labour are worse and the silence of Corbyn in this process has been deafening.

For the record I voted remain am very pro European much of my business is done in Europe so this decision is a potential disaster for me. However I have come to the conclusion whats done is done and if we have to rip off the band aid lets do it. WTO most favoured nation rules will not be a disaster people will ultimately be able to travel and work albeit on a visa basis but the EU will have this advanced economy competing with them aggressively on their doorstep.

If I was conducting these negotiations I would be very clear about what I want from the outset to avoid the games and let them know we are geared for the worse case scenario, time to stick it on them.

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(02-01-2018 13:43 )sweetsugar007 Wrote:  .....and its a crime he is not Sir Phillip Taylor yet. Typical of the snobbery within our honours system.

He's a sex offender though. That would have something to do with it. Plus, much like Lewis Hamilton, he seems like a rather unpleasant person. Arrogance on stage is fine - you do NEED that to be successful - but off-stage he comes across like a nasty cunt, TBH. Fake and bitter. I can't see him ever being knighted. He probably WILL be re-MBE'd though.

Scotland 25 - 13 England

That was for Brexit

I bloody hate rugby

And here's an old chestnut from Harry Enfield which wasn't about Brexit but the principle is the same:

Dont worry we will stop Funding Curling in revenge

Labour have come out for a customs union/soft Brexit

And the EU are saying that NI must be in a customs union or there'll have to be a border

So Boris is now like "Imma sending my boss a letter to say the invisible border is an affront to Brexit, and if those pesky potato-eaters don't like it, they can do one" although I stress that's not a verbatim quote.

Sticking with the potato theme Sir Martin Donnelly, former head of Liam Fox's International Trade department, said in relation to giving up Single Market and Customs Union "Brexit is like giving up a three course meal.. for the promise of a packet of crisps in the future"

Liam Fox then said in a speech that "The Brexit process is, as we've all discovered, a little more complex than a packet of Walkers." I bet his team were all high fiving each other when they thought of it, bet they thought it was a right zinger