[split] Evelyn - Chat & Discussion

(27-07-2016 23:01 )nottooold Wrote:  Last Monday Evelyn made a return to pervcam shows with an hour from 8 - 9 pm, and a short extension after 10 pm. I think she was a little reluctant to do so, but did it because the fans wanted it.

She was a daytime girl for six years before eventually trying pervcam, and those of us who often talk to her on the phone know that she doesn't wish to do nights because of the expectation of nudity and the particularly filthy language. (And if you've never phoned her before, why not?????) She has said her motto is "I want to tease, I want to please, but I am not a porn star". Let's remember this in her future shows, and not request that she do what she does not wish to do.

For example, a short time before her holiday, one regular pervcam customer begged her to masturbate using her hair brush!!! Surely we all know that this is not the way to treat her. I am not surprised that she has been a bit slow to return to pervcam shows!!!

Let's treat her with a little respect and understanding, and hope that normal service will resume shortly. If you want pornography, look somewhere else, for we all know that is not her intention.

and exactly who are you to tell me what i should and shouldnt request.
if shes willing to do cams its because she wants the money nothing more, its not because she likes to tease. if that was the case she wouldn't be charging £3.50+pm.
shes a grown independent woman not a FUCKIN WALLFLOWER!. so stop telling us we should treat her as such.
and shes quite capable of saying NO! to any request she doesnt want to do. shit she has said no to me more times than i can count, but she never discourages me from asking.
i just get, "no, you naughty boy". *with a cheeky grin*

seriously guy your fucking laughable... ive had evelyn stroking/fingering her pussy, flashing her ass and tits. all while fully respecting her as a woman...
so please dont tell me im disrespecting her by asking her to show the goods thats just fucking moronic.
shes a cam girl doing what cam girls do and thats earn money. if you cant deal with that, then thats your issue not ours.

oh and the only thing thats making her less reluctant to do shows is lack of viewers in her room.
if she had carried on her progression she wouldnt have an empty room, but instead she came back off her break and has tamed down. resulting in reduced interest which means less money, so shes less willing to do the cam show...
(if you have been following this thread you will see i predicted this would happen and it did...)

tonight she left after 20 mins because her room was empty... there was no, oh il wait and see if some 1 turns up, as soon as the last guy said goodnight she left.
that tells you everything you need to know.

oh and plz dont, just dont. im a log time fan of evelyn and called regularly before she went on her break and will call again when i have time.
no doubt she will find your comments just as laughable as i do...

(28-07-2016 21:57 )HEX!T Wrote:  

(27-07-2016 23:01 )nottooold Wrote:  Last Monday Evelyn made a return to pervcam shows with an hour from 8 - 9 pm, and a short extension after 10 pm. I think she was a little reluctant to do so, but did it because the fans wanted it.

She was a daytime girl for six years before eventually trying pervcam, and those of us who often talk to her on the phone know that she doesn't wish to do nights because of the expectation of nudity and the particularly filthy language. (And if you've never phoned her before, why not?????) She has said her motto is "I want to tease, I want to please, but I am not a porn star". Let's remember this in her future shows, and not request that she do what she does not wish to do.

For example, a short time before her holiday, one regular pervcam customer begged her to masturbate using her hair brush!!! Surely we all know that this is not the way to treat her. I am not surprised that she has been a bit slow to return to pervcam shows!!!

Let's treat her with a little respect and understanding, and hope that normal service will resume shortly. If you want pornography, look somewhere else, for we all know that is not her intention.

and exactly who are you to tell me what i should and shouldnt request.
if shes willing to do cams its because she wants the money nothing more, its not because she likes to tease. if that was the case she wouldnt be charging £3.50+pm its the same with all the other girls who do em.
shes a grown independent woman not a FUCKIN WALLFLOWER!. so stop telling us we should treat her as such...
and shes quite capable of saying NO! to any request she doesnt want to do....

seriously guy your fucking laughable... ive had evelyn stroking her pussy, flashing her ass and tits. all while fully respecting her as a woman...
so please dont tell me im disrespecting her by asking her to show the goods thats just fucking morronic. shes a cam girl doing what cam girls do and thats earn money. if you cant deal with that, then thats your issue not ours.

oh and the only thing thats making her less reluctant to do shows is lack of viewers in her room. if she had carried on her progression she wouldnt have an empty room but instead she has tames down resulting in reduced interest, which means less money, so shes less willing to do the cam show... she left after 20 mins tonight because her room was empty... there was no, oh il wait and see if some 1 turns up, as soon as the last guy left she left.
that tells you everything you need to know.

Ok now that was the best read! NICE! Boooom!

(28-07-2016 21:57 )HEX!T Wrote:  oh and the only thing thats making her less reluctant to do shows is lack of viewers in her room.
if she had carried on her progression she wouldnt have an empty room, but instead she came back off her break and has tamed down. resulting in reduced interest which means less money, so shes less willing to do the cam show...
(if you have been following this thread you will see i predicted this would happen and it did...)

tonight she left after 20 mins because her room was empty... there was no, oh il wait and see if some 1 turns up, as soon as the last guy said goodnight she left.
that tells you everything you need to know.

oh and plz dont, just dont. im a log time fan of evelyn and called regularly before she went on her break and will call again when i have time.
no doubt she will find your comments just as laughable as i do...

Lol. I'd still like to know where you get your data from concerning girls cam room viewers, HEX!T. I was there when she was ending her aftershow today & I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that I wasn't alone either, judging by the activity in the chatroom. And that 20 minute aftershow was meant to be a 10 minute one (I mean she said it clearly in the chat), she stayed for that extra 10 minutes because her chatroom was full of requests.

Re. her progression, if you honestly are a longtime fan of hers, then you should have realize by now that 14 hour shifts with the last 3-4 of them being her dancing naked on cam was not what she had in mind when she started doing these perve shows in Jan/Feb. Hence why she has "tamed down", not because of lack of viewers (IMO she's the most in-demand girl in st66, along with Macy, though I have no way to prove it) but bc it was starting to drain her out of energy & affect her performance both on TV & cam.

(28-07-2016 23:57 )euleri Wrote:  

(28-07-2016 21:57 )HEX!T Wrote:  oh and the only thing thats making her less reluctant to do shows is lack of viewers in her room.
if she had carried on her progression she wouldnt have an empty room, but instead she came back off her break and has tamed down. resulting in reduced interest which means less money, so shes less willing to do the cam show...
(if you have been following this thread you will see i predicted this would happen and it did...)

tonight she left after 20 mins because her room was empty... there was no, oh il wait and see if some 1 turns up, as soon as the last guy said goodnight she left.
that tells you everything you need to know.

oh and plz dont, just dont. im a log time fan of evelyn and called regularly before she went on her break and will call again when i have time.
no doubt she will find your comments just as laughable as i do...

Lol. I'd still like to know where you get your data from concerning girls cam room viewers, HEX!T. I was there when she was ending her aftershow today & I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that I wasn't alone either, judging by the activity in the chatroom. And that 20 minute aftershow was meant to be a 10 minute one (I mean she said it clearly in the chat), she stayed for that extra 10 minutes because her chatroom was full of requests.

Re. her progression, if you honestly are a longtime fan of hers, then you should have realize by now that 14 hour shifts with the last 3-4 of them being her dancing naked on cam was not what she had in mind when she started doing these perve shows in Jan/Feb. Hence why she has "tamed down", not because of lack of viewers (IMO she's the most in-demand girl in st66, along with Macy, though I have no way to prove it) but bc it was starting to drain her out of energy & affect her performance both on TV & cam.

Hummm all very interesting! Regardless of all that, I think her personality as a presenter has gone!
Although who presents s66 now days lol even though their twitter says s66 presenters!
But when an s66 babe seems disinterested in the show the viewers them selves can lose that attraction to that babe if u will!
I didn't bother calling Evelyn today because her body language wasn't good towards the camera, maybe a bad caller(idk) if so hang up smile, attract the next caller! Sorry u guy's didn't mean to change the conversation, carry on!

HEX!T said -

and exactly who are you to tell me what i should and shouldnt request.
if shes willing to do cams its because she wants the money nothing more, its not because she likes to tease. if that was the case she wouldn't be charging £3.50+pm.
shes a grown independent woman not a FUCKIN WALLFLOWER!. so stop telling us we should treat her as such.
and shes quite capable of saying NO! to any request she doesnt want to do. shit she has said no to me more times than i can count, but she never discourages me from asking.
i just get, "no, you naughty boy". *with a cheeky grin*

seriously guy your fucking laughable... ive had evelyn stroking/fingering her pussy, flashing her ass and tits. all while fully respecting her as a woman...
so please dont tell me im disrespecting her by asking her to show the goods thats just fucking moronic.
shes a cam girl doing what cam girls do and thats earn money. if you cant deal with that, then thats your issue not ours.

oh and the only thing thats making her less reluctant to do shows is lack of viewers in her room.
if she had carried on her progression she wouldnt have an empty room, but instead she came back off her break and has tamed down. resulting in reduced interest which means less money, so shes less willing to do the cam show...
(if you have been following this thread you will see i predicted this would happen and it did...)

tonight she left after 20 mins because her room was empty... there was no, oh il wait and see if some 1 turns up, as soon as the last guy said goodnight she left.
that tells you everything you need to know.

oh and plz dont, just dont. im a log time fan of evelyn and called regularly before she went on her break and will call again when i have time.
no doubt she will find your comments just as laughable as i do...

Sorry HEX!T, where is all this anger coming from? I respect your right to have a different opinion from mine, and I feel no anger towards you, but I disagree with almost every word you have said.

Firstly, I wasn't telling you or anyone else what to do, I was making a suggestion which was aimed at all Evelyn fans who want to see a return of the pervcam shows. If she was only doing the pervcam shows for the money as you say, why has she only done short shows just at the request of fans since her return, and not advertised one single planned show? She could make a fortune if money making was her aim. She hasn't attempted to do one single planned pervcam show since her return. So it clearly isn't money!!

I think we all know that she has her limits and will not go beyond them. If she tolerates repeated requests from you and others, to do what she doesn't want to do, she could just be exercising professional politeness. Perhaps it is repeated requests from people such as yourself who won't take "no" for an answer that has discouraged her. Something has for sure.

I am well aware that her pervcam shows contain plenty of "pantie action" etc, and I have no problem "dealing with what she does". I probably have a bit of a problem with people who can't cope with what she doesn't do.

Her current failure to do long pervcam shows has nothing to do with a lack of viewers. She returned from holiday with a reluctance to do the long shows, and has never tried to do one. She then gave in to repeated requests from fans and gave two short "off tv" shows. Twice fans begged her to stay after 10 pm and twice she yielded and said "OK ten minutes" and then stayed a bit longer. She has not tried to do longer shows and given up because of a lack of interest. That is rubbish. She hasn't tried to do longer shows - full stop.

I don't think that there is any evidence that she is chasing money. If she was, she would let everyone know she is going to do a long pervcam show, and then do it. Nothing remotely resembling this has happened has it HEX!T?

As for Evelyn finding my comments laughable, I'm actually telling you what she told me!

You have a right to your opinion, as I have to mine. But you've expressed an opinion based on information which is totally incorrect.

(29-07-2016 13:04 )nottooold Wrote:  HEX!T said - (surprised you didnt use HEX!T wrote )
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Sorry HEX!T, where is all this anger coming from? I respect your right to have a different opinion from mine, and I feel no anger towards you, but I disagree with almost every word you have said.

Firstly, I wasn't telling you or anyone else what to do, I was making a suggestion which was aimed at all Evelyn fans who want to see a return of the pervcam shows. If she was only doing the pervcam shows for the money as you say, why has she only done short shows just at the request of fans since her return, and not advertised one single planned show? She could make a fortune if money making was her aim. She hasn't attempted to do one single planned pervcam show since her return. So it clearly isn't money!!

I think we all know that she has her limits and will not go beyond them. If she tolerates repeated requests from you and others, to do what she doesn't want to do, she could just be exercising professional politeness. Perhaps it is repeated requests from people such as yourself who won't take "no" for an answer that has discouraged her. Something has for sure.

I am well aware that her pervcam shows contain plenty of "pantie action" etc, and I have no problem "dealing with what she does". I probably have a bit of a problem with people who can't cope with what she doesn't do.

Her current failure to do long pervcam shows has nothing to do with a lack of viewers. She returned from holiday with a reluctance to do the long shows, and has never tried to do one. She then gave in to repeated requests from fans and gave two short "off tv" shows. Twice fans begged her to stay after 10 pm and twice she yielded and said "OK ten minutes" and then stayed a bit longer. She has not tried to do longer shows and given up because of a lack of interest. That is rubbish. She hasn't tried to do longer shows - full stop.

I don't think that there is any evidence that she is chasing money. If she was, she would let everyone know she is going to do a long pervcam show, and then do it. Nothing remotely resembling this has happened has it HEX!T?

As for Evelyn finding my comments laughable, I'm actually telling you what she told me!

You have a right to your opinion, as I have to mine. But you've expressed an opinion based on information which is totally incorrect.

no pal you didnt express an opinion you tried to tell us we should be more respectful and not ask for things because it offends you.
just on the page before this...

Quote:She was a daytime girl for six years before eventually trying pervcam, and those of us who often talk to her on the phone know that she doesn't wish to do nights because of the expectation of nudity and the particularly filthy language. (And if you've never phoned her before, why not?????) She has said her motto is "I want to tease, I want to please, but I am not a porn star". Let's remember this in her future shows, and not request that she do what she does not wish to do.

you have a short memory pal. you just told every 1 what they should and shouldnt do...

plz tell me how much does she charge you to talk to her.
how much does she charge to watch her cam show or is she doing it for free?.
she charges, so is doing it for the money. thats just a simple deduction matey.

as for the im not a pornstar bit, a lot of the girls make the same statement, it doesnt stop em making soft/hardcore cam shows. every time i see it im reminded of this old joke...

guy walks up to a model and says would you sleep with me for £1000,000

the girl looks at him, thinks for a minute and says yes...

then the guy said, hmmm scrap that, how about if a paid £1.

the woman is instantly offended and says what kind of woman do you think i am....

the guy says We’ve already established what kind of woman you are. Now we’re just haggling over the price.

seriously mate it IS all about the money, for all the girls not just evelyn.

(29-07-2016 13:04 )nottooold Wrote:  HEX!T said - (surprised you didnt use HEX!T wrote )
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Sorry HEX!T, where is all this anger coming from? I respect your right to have a different opinion from mine, and I feel no anger towards you, but I disagree with almost every word you have said.

Firstly, I wasn't telling you or anyone else what to do, I was making a suggestion which was aimed at all Evelyn fans who want to see a return of the pervcam shows. If she was only doing the pervcam shows for the money as you say, why has she only done short shows just at the request of fans since her return, and not advertised one single planned show? She could make a fortune if money making was her aim. She hasn't attempted to do one single planned pervcam show since her return. So it clearly isn't money!!

I think we all know that she has her limits and will not go beyond them. If she tolerates repeated requests from you and others, to do what she doesn't want to do, she could just be exercising professional politeness. Perhaps it is repeated requests from people such as yourself who won't take "no" for an answer that has discouraged her. Something has for sure.

I am well aware that her pervcam shows contain plenty of "pantie action" etc, and I have no problem "dealing with what she does". I probably have a bit of a problem with people who can't cope with what she doesn't do.

Her current failure to do long pervcam shows has nothing to do with a lack of viewers. She returned from holiday with a reluctance to do the long shows, and has never tried to do one. She then gave in to repeated requests from fans and gave two short "off tv" shows. Twice fans begged her to stay after 10 pm and twice she yielded and said "OK ten minutes" and then stayed a bit longer. She has not tried to do longer shows and given up because of a lack of interest. That is rubbish. She hasn't tried to do longer shows - full stop.

I don't think that there is any evidence that she is chasing money. If she was, she would let everyone know she is going to do a long pervcam show, and then do it. Nothing remotely resembling this has happened has it HEX!T?

As for Evelyn finding my comments laughable, I'm actually telling you what she told me!

You have a right to your opinion, as I have to mine. But you've expressed an opinion based on information which is totally incorrect.

no pal you didnt express an opinion you tried to tell us we should be more respectful and not ask for things because it offends you.
just on the page before this...

Quote:She was a daytime girl for six years before eventually trying pervcam, and those of us who often talk to her on the phone know that she doesn't wish to do nights because of the expectation of nudity and the particularly filthy language. (And if you've never phoned her before, why not?????) She has said her motto is "I want to tease, I want to please, but I am not a porn star". Let's remember this in her future shows, and not request that she do what she does not wish to do.

you have a short memory pal. you just told every 1 what they should and shouldnt do...

plz tell me how much does she charge you to talk to her.
how much does she charge to watch her cam show or is she doing it for free?.
she charges, so is doing it for the money. thats just a simple deduction matey.

as for the im not a pornstar bit, a lot of the girls make the same statement, it doesnt stop em making soft/hardcore cam shows. every time i see it im reminded of this old joke...

guy walks up to a model and says would you sleep with me for £1000,000
the girl looks at him, thinks for a minute and says yes...
then the guy said, hmmm scrap that, how about if a paid £1.
the woman is instantly offended and says what kind of woman do you think i am....
the guy says We’ve already established what kind of woman you are. Now we’re just haggling over the price.

seriously mate it IS all about the money, for all the girls not just evelyn.

Quote:I probably have a bit of a problem with people who can't cope with what she doesn't do.

glad you understand its your issue...
like i said mate its part of the job, she has to deal with it as best she can and the simple way she does it is to say NO!.
so she already has it handled, so no reason for you to be concerned.

HEX!T mate, let's bury this one! I started a debate about why Evelyn hadn't restarted her long pervcam shows, and it got totally out of hand.

When I wrote "Let's remember this..." I didn't see it as me telling anyone what to do, it was intended as advice or encouragement, basically to think before we do something. (A piece of advice we've all ignored, myself included, I think!!!) If it had been intended as an instruction I would have written "we must", "we have to" or "we need to".

When I wrote " I have a problem....." it might have been better if I had written "I don't understand.." or something similar.

I still want to see what we can do to encourage Evelyn back to doing longer pervcam shows - but I don't think I'll mention it again!!

I liked your gag about negotiating a price with the model, although I really don't think Evelyn's reluctance has anything to do with money - if she wanted the money she'd be doing the shows, and she isn't. And much of what I wrote was based on what she told me.

Have a last dig at me and let's shake hands. (Actually that's another request not an instruction!!!).

hmm... twilight zoned. sorry mods but i dont think this 1 deserved to be buried.
its just a little too an fro. its just adults having a discussion holding differing points of view.

@nottooold
you might not have meant it that way but thats the way it came across... remember there is no verbal toning on a website . thus the reason you thought my post was an angry rant, when it wasnt . it was just me putting my point across with emphasis .

as for encouraging her to do shows. only money will do that mate sorry. like i say its a job.

the way i look at it is, if she wants the money she will earn it. but because the novelty has worn off, it will be much harder to do the job without stepping up her content dramatically.
like i said she had 20+ guys an hour when she started. that fell shift by shift just before her break i think there was 5 guys total. despite doing slightly raunchier shows every shift she wasnt attracting new viewers because she wasnt progressing fast enough.

the upshot means her income would have dropped by over 90%. thats 17k down to less than 1.7k for the month, despite in her mind doing much stronger shows .

so yeah mate i have good reason to think its about the money.

(29-07-2016 19:14 )HEX!T Wrote:  hmm... twilight zoned. sorry mods but i dont think this 1 deserved to be buried.
its just a little too an fro. its just adults having a discussion holding differing points of view.

@nottooold
you might not have meant it that way but thats the way it came across... remember there is no verbal toning on a website . thus the reason you thought my post was an angry rant, when it wasnt . it was just me putting my point across with emphasis .

as for encouraging her to do shows. only money will do that mate sorry. like i say its a job.

the way i look at it is, if she wants the money she will earn it. but because the novelty has worn off, it will be much harder to do the job without stepping up her content dramatically.
like i said she had 20+ guys an hour when she started. that fell shift by shift just before her break i think there was 5 guys total. despite doing slightly raunchier shows every shift she wasnt attracting new viewers because she wasnt progressing fast enough.

the upshot means her income would have dropped by over 90%. thats 17k down to less than 1.7k for the month, despite in her mind doing much stronger shows .

so yeah mate i have good reason to think its about the money.

Iv stayed out of this and just been reading!
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