Do Babeshow Babe's Respect There Callers?

Various posts arising from the heated topic of rogue cam uploads, alongside a pm exchange with a venerable poster, have prompted a most unexpected intervention by myself. Apparently comments I made struck a chord. Officially I am retired and will remain this way unless such exceptional circumstances emerge... as it seems they have in this instance.
So here you are ShandyHand, it was he that asked me to convey some of these thoughts to you, my private musings made public once more.

Recent posts from yourself along with those of hairbald and a few others have reignited some of my most passionate displeasure expressed within contributions of times gone by.
I could be most unforgiving in turn of phrase while scathing and dismissive in a tone of utter revulsion about the babeshow and babe culture as I deemed it to be.
Back then I would not have hesitated to let rip.
The reason I would not have hesitated is that I sensed the beginnings of what we see now. I felt something poisonous was damaging the shows back then but was in a minority willing to take the babeshow culture to task so vehemently.
I feared a lot of what was coming a long way down the track and alas here we all are. 
The channels and SOME babes that represent them, the regulatory culture and the way in which the forum perceives what goes on has evolved.
The tragedy of it all is that this evolution of perception was too slow in the making and looking back I could and should have done more to put some meat on the bone of my frustrations and suspicions while being clinical in my expression of dismay. Posts such as those that you and others have so eloquently and acerbically constructed I feel would have had greater value back in time. Now I feel the progression along the road to babeshow ruin has gone on too long to the point where it is just another excuse for a babe to respond with simplistic, egotistical counter accusation of 'freeloader', 'loser' or 'who the hell does he think he is?'.
Such posts I feel now just drown in a sea of apathy and despair despite the noble and worthy intention and excellence of articulation.
This, perhaps is a reflection too of my own disillusionment with all matters babeshow product and how feeble it's output, how contemptuous it's priority and motivation and how utterly short sighted it's method seems to be in my eyes.
I am grateful for the likes of yourself providing a balance of perspective during these last few years and will forever be so as I resume forum life as a mere spectator.
Your posts along with the contributions from hairbald amongst others are excellent ones. Alas I fear they will have no discernible stinging impact as the babeshow babe culture will be neither shaken nor stirred by such sentiment no matter how close to the unbearable truth such contributions cut.

So then, in the light of my feelings what do I leave behind to this forum as my last will and testament?
I leave a rage out of control. A rage at a babe and channel culture that has self defeatism, hypocrisy, double standards and a complete lack of humility, decency and imagination at it's heart. A culture of short termist, quick buckitis.
Screw every penny out of every gullable sucker and then laugh and spit in the face of those who oblige with £s. False gratitude, utter disrespect for all and sundry.
Those that don't call are freeloaders.
Those that do call are sad lonely perverts with nothing better to spend their money or time on.
Those that buy videos or pictures or pay for pervcam - ha ha more sad gullable suckers.
Those that oblige wishlists and findom - tolerable cretins who know their role in life, that of subsidising the desires of the holier than thou Goddesses of the universe. Justifiably keeping babes living in the manner they are 'entitled' to be accustomed to . 
By babeshow babe law all of the above people must remember one thing. They are all losers. To be laughed at, sneered at, looked down upon with an expectation of fawning praise at the level of divine right and of lifestyle subsidisation at a level even higher.
That's right these babes are entitled to something for nothing and preferably more while the plebs that are there to serve them have no right to anything for nothing especially if the babe suffers financially as a result in which case unbearable human trauma ensues to the point they can't continue to function.
Except that they do continue to function. An inconvenient reality indeed as the money grabbing temptation resumes it's vice like grip.
With the nightshow product it's a case of 'If you want to see me do something then call me rather than moaning and bitching on forums'.
I will still decline your request because you are a loser and because I can. Have you saved my wishlist to your favourites? If so you may kiss my boots as a reward. You are not worthy of my ass.
Besides who are you forum 'weirdos' and freeloaders to criticise me?
You don't know me, how dare you.
Convenient ignorance of the fact that they don't know us either while they tag us with 'weirdo' or 'loser' etc etc. 

Channel bosses laugh heartily in the background of all such divaishness.
Ooh that caller is enjoying himself a bit too much. Send him back to the menu system to annoy him.
Besides we need to start a two minute challenge listen in line to stop anyone talking to you babes. But we need two minutes before the two minutes ACTUALLY starts.
Oh and two minutes to count down to the two minutes before the actual two minutes.
Couldn't we have got a cheaper curtain? 
Doh.
Blind pervcam is so much more fun.
Staring at a pussy is good for your health but better for our profit margins.
Boo bloody hoo.

And so this last will and testament descends deep into a quagmire of feeble rant. So much so if I wasn't so disillusioned I would be bored to tears instead.
It is time for me to retreat to my box where I belong.
Paying homage to those ladies of the night who recently seem dressed more appropriately for the day on 909 at least.
As is my duty.
You will hopefully forgive me if I occasionally peep my head and hands out of the said box to wave a white flag of surrender in one hand and a red card of dismissal in the other.
The only pounds I will be shedding will be from my overly substantial body weight in order for me to better fit in the box.
I have no more last orders at the nightshow bar.
I am too drunk with despair and too weary with disappointment.

Farewell.

^^Best post I've seen on about this whole subject. Summed up better than what i could say.

Thank you for the rep and your thoughtful response.

I think in this age of Trump and social media this concept of a polarised for or against with no grey is rapidly taking hold; its a very salient point when the girls rail against those terrible people on the forum (and the White Knights leap in to agree with them). Gun control, the NHS, fox hunting, Babestation vs Kerrie Lee, you're told you must pick a side and sit neatly in your allocated box.

This is why a forum is so good. You've got to stand your ground and open your argument to scrutiny. Even Terence at his most grumpy doesn't ban you for hold a contrary view . Too easy to do social media and then you just end up with a series of sheep to reinforce your world view

As some of you may be aware I've met a good number of babeshow girls over the years and I can honestly say all of them were pleasant face to face. A few I've seen a couple of times and so you start to get to know a bit more about them. With 2 exceptions (and you'll have to allow me a bit of generalisation here - apologies) what we are talking about is working class girls, often young mothers, with no real understanding of what they want to do with their lives, and no real world view or aspiration to get one.

There are some babeshow girls who are clearly bright; Scarlett and Caty Cole have got the education that should allow them to move onwards and upwards but as another poster noted will their past impact their future. Their are a number of former pornstars that have written very good articles on the stigma of their careers (Bree Olsen was one, and I think Sam Bentley has also written a few cracking articles on the subject). But there are so many that seem stuck and just getting older (Clare Richards retired to pursue something fantastic but it didn't work out so she's still ploughing away, seemingly going nowhere).

I think one thing they need to get their heads around is that most of us in our work careers can expect to earn more as we get older (okay ignoring the latest kick in the balls on living standards continuing to fall). Babeshow girls can only ever expect to earn less and that is being hit further by failing TV format. Not a lot of them get that. Becoming a hairdresser is babeshow equivalent of a 1970s footballer opening a pub

Meeting young Emma. I work in a job where people (clients and my own teams) run at me screaming, out of control and blaming the world for their ills. They are armed with half truths and ill thought out postures. I did a bit of coaching (do the course, its one of the few things that sounds like management bullshit but actually isn't) and generally you let them talk themselves out, and then start the leading questions to query where they are at. She might come in all guns blazing, but it wouldn't last and then we'd have one of those old fashioned thing from pre-social media, email and texting, called a constructive conversation

Ultimately I guess I feel a bit sorry for some of these girls; they have expectations that are never going to be met.

But there are some who you do have to admire. I give you (for some of the old timers on here) Rebecca Jade. From following on Twitter and Insta, she is super fit running Ultra-marathons and entered for the likes of Tokyo because shes running some serious times, got a lovely little lad, nice house in South wales with her partner, a deaf dog and just oozes contentment. But then she never had hissy fits, was always polite and professional and just got on with the job. Perhaps there is something in that....

(23-11-2017 18:16 )ShandyHand Wrote:  Character comes through despite confining oneself to tweet length doesn't it. ...

Hairbald's contender for post of the year above highlights the vast division between your average babe and articulate thinking potential punter. A chasm now externally stoked by industry intransigence and conceit.

His exchange with Emma C on twitter shows how a babe will brook no contention, how quickly a guy is consigned as a "weirdo" and hints at more on the generalised feelings that the babes behind these recent tweets have for their crowd...

Babe offers bravado filled 'bet they would never say that to our faces'; punter offers reasonable and polite counter that can't be shouted down or cursed at. Babe promptly shuts down exchange... After hairbald's posts this week does anyone actually believe he would not say what he had to say if he and Ms.C stood chest to ample busom?! He is certainly no ranting keyboard warrior. But Ms.C didn't want her vapid assumptions challagened - whilst posting about ours! Here's the thing though: It's not the average punter who is the relentless self-publicist is it; which individual puts more evidence of their personality and lives online? Whose assumptions of the individual are less likely to be generalised here?

And yet these babes would have it that we are the one's who lack knowledge and awareness of the other. I have seen the more thoughtful posters on here acknowledge that there may well be things that we don't comprehend in why the babes do what they do. I have never seen any reciprocal doubt of any kind from said babes. They think they have us down pat in a few trite phrases... We are not the ones who are showing we have closed our minds to the other.

It would seem that punters are one homogenious block to many that these idols; a totally known quantity. Ms.C not saying "all" presumably just allows for the traditional totally submissive payer and, the even more worthless ,whinging freeloader groups in her mind; the latter now augmented by the scourged quisling uploader ranks. I have yet to see any babe offer an acknowledgement of even a third category - let alone any further shades of grey - in their vision of their audience. That fact alone says how far beneath respect we are here.

get a room you lot, ffs!

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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm knackered after reading through all that!

I could do with a lie down, and thankfully, as is often the case these days , there's nothing of interest on the babe channels, so an early night it is, then!

Sorry, couldn't muster the energy, or enthusiasm, for anything more erudite.

Fuck me it's like an explosion in the Alphabetti Spaghetti factory on here tonight.

^ laughable!

(More alphabet soup anyone?! )

Hairbald makes some good wider points... I've spoken about the closeting world of social media on here before. It is quite evidently one of the reasons why less babes post on the forum now than was once the case. Twitter and the rest are far more easily controlled environments and havens for the diva who can surround herself with only an echo chamber of positivity. How easy it must be to believe all your own press in such a world.

I suppose the avoidance of stigma is one of the things motivating the babes in trying to keep the content levels they do in private away from the public-eye... But as I see it, it is the same conceit that I was outling in my previous post that actually brought us to this latest babe rebellion on cam. Look at this...

(22-11-2017 17:22 )babefan2012 Wrote:  ...they never considered what’s happening now happening. It’s incredible naivety from these babes. Whether it’s beyond a pay wall is irrelevant, anything that’s done online or on cam will never stay private 1000%...

Well, for me, it could be called naivete but the mighty vehemence of some of the babes prolonged tweeting on this smacked more of an overwhelming conceit flouted I feel. The babes that have been caught out by this Outlaw dude* (and presumably others of his ilk) sound like they have had their pride knifed, their pomposity pricked, and by, horror of horrors, a lowlife 'saddo' at that. Being caught out by one of the pond scum does not go down well in this sphere.

Thing is these babes were duped and deceived by their own skewed view of their world if I'm any judge. I think it's not that they didn't consider a major upload breach but that they dismissed it because they thought that they controlled, owned, these punters. More, these babes thought they were forever secured, not by fragile technology, but because they believe that they know every joe's mind and think they can always spot a external paypig. They thought their emotional manipulations would always mean they could keep the bigger payers in line. None of these poor losers would be illogical and rebellious enough to give away top content material they'd paid through the nose for - surely... It was a bad misjudgement - with the babes finally being overly emboldened by their self-set, sky high, price tags too.

Maybe someone exploited the exploiters - a guy playing along as just another sucker whilst always having this in mind if he ever felt hard done by or whatever.

Or was this Outlaw even the actual uploader? Maybe it's just as often a pretty please 'private' sharer who does the definitive deed. Not everyone is going to put the same great value on the blurry ass he sees on his file as the babe in question does. (The original recorder is just as dum in this scenario too of course - it only takes one weak link in any sharing chain for stuff to go public.)

So I guess the babes were naive... not over the tech, but in not factoring in their own deceiving sense of overweening superiority when making their cam choices.

* aka "Paul".

I think (& fear) this episode is way big enough to be the rod that breaks the babe shows' back

(25-11-2017 16:47 )babelover48 Wrote:  I think (& fear) this episode is way big enough to be the rod that breaks the babe shows' back

The guy in question was undoubtedly trusted by lots of the girls. Known as a good guy who built up a line of trust with many of the girls. He's admitted he recorded them but says he made a mistake and gave some to a friend. He denies uploading them himself. Undoubtedly the girls may have been naive BUT this thread asks if Babes respect their callers. In this case they did and look how their respect has been repaid. Flick, Ashley, Maisie etc from BS and probably many more have been betrayed. Well done you've screwed it for a lot of us.