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Fair enough, I think you are right in the sense that he can't really put a good story arch together, particularly season 6. The whole marriage of River Song, River being Amy and Rory's daughter, the Amy clone, him dying and then faking his death but actually it was a robot controlled by tiny people was just the worst thing ever. I think the Angels and River were best left to just one episode, they got over used and whilst I liked the fact that he loved Clara, platonically, so much that he was willing to upend the Universe to get her back and that made him dangerous, the whole hybrid thing was just bollox

That being said I will give him credit he wrote some of the best stand alone episodes in The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, The Girl in The Fire Place, Blink, Listen. I liked the 50th anniversary special as well as the mini episode The Night of the Doctor. Asylum of the Daleks and Into the Dalek freshened up a fan favourite that had been going stale. I liked season eight and ten's two part finale's and the first part of season 9 heaven sent all written by him. The season 8 story arch of Clara, Danny and The Doctor was perhaps my favorite as it was in my opinion the best as far as characterisation and had a much more real portrayal of how going on adventures with The Doctor would affect the relationships of the companions. In the Angels I think he created the best original villain since the series returned he just over used them.

Moffat just seemed to be less than the sum of his parts, he has added so much good to Who mythology but just could never put it together into something great, usually the opposite. I think ultimately you are right and it was time for him to leave

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28-01-2018 23:25
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Newly released video footage of Capaldi's last script read-through (with Chibnall lurking at the back): http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-0...ugh-video/

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I think Moffat's problem was that he didnt know when to let go. He says in a recent interview about Coleman's departure that no-one "should leave Doctor Who until they’re really ready to leave." I think he's equally talking about himself there.

He really should have gone with Coleman (as he originally planned); his legacy, despite various faults, would have been all the better for it. Instead he drifted on into somewhat repetitive often substandard storylines, that were only really lifted by an excellent main cast.

As ratings had begun to slip, he also got meddlesome and too self-aware in his writing. Perhaps pushed by BBC suits he, IMO, became obssessed with winning back the show's family audience and reputation of the Tennant era. (I hope Chibnall has better ideas how to crack that particular nut because the pressure is undoubtedly still there.) There are signs that Moffat was too concerned with his social media reputation too post-Sherlock.

Onscreen, too much silly comedy, an insistence with impacting himself over the show's history and an unending procession of attempts at 'cool' moments was the result.

Moffat is your talented but egotistical uncle at a party, craving the centre of attention and effecting to make the young kids think he's cool. His better stories will stand the test of time and hopefully overshadow the elongated exit. His time as showrunner shows him far better when focused on a strict arc or the turning point story; ultimately I think outside influences did for him.

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The problem about leaving with Coleman is that SHE clung on a series too long, and he let her. Admittedly there were some tough creative issues for him to handle (split series etc) but I can't think of any he handled well.

His writing was self-aware from Day One. Unfortunately, if you're rebutting criticism before it's made, you just invite other complaints.

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Hold on to your teeth, it's...



...not that bad, I think Smile

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21-02-2018 13:43
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Thumbs up from me

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Yup looks good

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(01-01-2018 13:01 )ShandyHand Wrote:  ^ I'd like to see a sequel to An Adventure in Time and Space focusing on the behind the scenes story of having to replace Hartnell. Casting Troughton would be mightily difficult mind.
David Troughton? You'd need a wig, but facially he's a lot like his dad.
22-02-2018 15:34
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^ Indeed. The only question is would he want to do it? He's limited his Who connections at times, IIRC.

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Each few hundred thousand off the viewing figures has had more telling knock-on effects it seems. Low visitor numbers closed the Cardiff Experience after they failed to reach projections. And an over £1mil taxpayer subsidy has been written off as a result: 
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1m-wr...-mq995jlh5
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales...t-14317405

Meanwhile, what's planned as the ratings revival continues it's filming - this time in Gosport. Whittaker is in her lilac coat from the publicity outfit note: 
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/our-region/...-1-8387682
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/our-region/...-1-8388104
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/our-region/...-1-8388741
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/art...r-Who.html
(This follows on from location shooting in Sheffield and at Cardiff Unversity earlier in the month.)

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22-02-2018 15:51
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Didn't they use Reece Shearsmith in the actual drama of AAISAT though? Jobs for the boys, you know.

Not to say they wouldn't use Troughton Jnr, though he is taller and broader, surely?

I'd expect Gatiss would selflessly (!) angle to play Pertwee, if necessary (or even if not).

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22-02-2018 16:40
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