Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(27-06-2016 12:05 )admiral decker Wrote:  The EU doesn't have to vote. After article 50 is triggered the EU treaties will eventually expire as far as the UK is concerned whether the EU have taken any vote on the matter or not.

If no EU vote takes place the UK simply ceases to be a member 2 years to the day after article 50 was invoked.

For those interested in how the government was planning to pay down part of its existing debt the shares it holds in Lloyds & RBS were due to be sold when timing was right. With Lloyds that process was well underway and within the next 12 months the government would have sold its remaining c£5BN holding. Well that was last weeks valuation. Today they are worth c£3BN. Anybody got any loose change?

Love this its Hilarious got a point as well

Can anyone explain to me why Boris and others have cancelled Brexit?

Is it an attempt to calm the markets or a way of trying to prevent Scottish independence? Or both? Or is it because they've realised that Brexit's not such a good idea after all?

haha cameron telling the new tooting Labour MP to keep her phone on cos she could be in shadow cabinet by teatime lol

(27-06-2016 14:26 )elgar1uk Wrote:  Can anyone explain to me why Boris and others have cancelled Brexit?

Is it an attempt to calm the markets or a way of trying to prevent Scottish independence? Or both? Or is it because they've realised that Brexit's not such a good idea after all?

Have they seeing they are setting up a ministry to deal with brexit issues looks like its going ahead

mind you lets hope its full of sir humphreys so will be next centrury before we quit

hmmmm boris and gove missing in action

(27-06-2016 14:47 )HannahsPet Wrote:  haha cameron telling the new tooting Labour MP to keep her phone on cos she could be in shadow cabinet by teatime lol

And he followed it up with the comment " And to think that I was having a bad day"

(27-06-2016 05:59 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  ^ And there's a second flaw in his logic. If he wants to factor in the people who don't vote, then there isn't a mandate to leave in the first place. Since only 37% of the people who were eligible to vote actually voted for it.

In the last general election the turn out was 66.4%. some say 66.1%, Cameroon took 36.1% of the results, ignoring that the majority of the UK didn't vote for him, we will move on.

In 2015 there was 44,722,000 who voted in the general election, for the referendum, 46,501,241

http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationan...foruk/2015

and

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_re...um/results

Cameroon received 11,334,576 of the popular vote in the general election (barely a quater of the popular vote)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin...tion,_2015

The leave votes received 17,410,742 of the popular vote, being a 70% turnout; see BBC results above.

The leave voters had 6,076,166 MORE votes than was recieved by the serving Prime minister who wanted to remain.

There was an overall win of around a million more votes to leave than stay.

Assume the remain vote is the same, they didn't change their minds.

Lets assume the libs manifesto was based heavily on leading the UK back to in the EU (or any prespective government that stand's). Lets assume 3 million more people NOW wanted vote to remain, or changed their minds and voted to stay that didn't before, thereby that vote swayed to the remain. Lets assume the winning party (libs) pretty much got the same amount of votes has Cameron did in the last general election WITH the additional 3 million votes, giving the elected government 14,344,576 votes that would STILL mean there were 3,066,166 more who voted to leave the EU in the country than voted for the now serving government.

There would now be more people in the country that voted out than remain of course, but not all for the serving government, as clearly was the case with Cameroon.

My point remains.

From the little I saw, and his 'the decision has been made, so it's going to happen' attitude, it seems that Cameron is now more enthusiastic about leaving the EU than Boris is!