Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it?

Now officially confirmed Liverpool will be in Tier 2, London in tier 2.

Greater Manchester will be in tier 3 along with Newcastle & Birmingham

(26-11-2020 01:40 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  Apparently Liverpool with be put in Tier 2

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/liverp...73?ITO=msn

Andy Burnham is expecting Greater Manchester in Tier 3 even though cases etc are all falling. some are saying the government want to send a message to Andy Burnham about this is what you get for not cooperating with us. If you had, you’d be in same tier as Liverpool

u been using your psychi powers again Rammy?

Lancashire in Tier 3 again what was the fucking point of a national lockdown when we were all in the same place as we were a month ago

I agre what was the point if nothing tier wise has changed in certain areas?

Some bloody exit strategy - naff all

(25-11-2020 23:30 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote:  That Graph's, lacking some detail. I assume the figures on the vertical left are deaths/week ? Dunno.

Plus, as has been the case all the way through this pandemic, the estimates by different groups have such a large span, which makes them almost meaningless. I thought that as we gained more understanding of the virus & better data, the various groups estimations would compare more closely. This isn't the case with these estimates.
Doesn't make any sense to me that the governments worse-case scenario is predicting the lowest peak out of the 5 studies, it looks about 700. the next 2 predictions are well beyond double that figure, the following one 3 times & the highest prediction in excess of 4 times. What do you call that one ? The Overly Exaggerated Worser than Worse-Case Scenario.
If is wasn't so serious, it would be laughable.
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Yes sorry should have said that's the expected number who die from covid in the left,
Most seam to have discounted the Cambridge curve saying it's to much based on the worst happening all the time,
It seams that the Warwick curve is the closest to the virus actual track at the moment, which I am really hoping is right and we will be down to no covid dieing by April,
Imperial think that Xmas will have a bigger effect on things and will keep the covid in higher numbers for longer before it's natural die off in the summer,
As for the government one no one has a clue how they come up with that lol

(26-11-2020 12:20 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  Now officially confirmed Liverpool will be in Tier 2, London in tier 2.

Proved the regional restrictions where working Liverpool going from the worst to a level 2 there was no need for a national lockdown they just needed to give the regional rules time to work,

(26-11-2020 12:56 )winsaw Wrote:  

(25-11-2020 23:30 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote:  That Graph's, lacking some detail. I assume the figures on the vertical left are deaths/week ? Dunno.

Plus, as has been the case all the way through this pandemic, the estimates by different groups have such a large span, which makes them almost meaningless. I thought that as we gained more understanding of the virus & better data, the various groups estimations would compare more closely. This isn't the case with these estimates.
Doesn't make any sense to me that the governments worse-case scenario is predicting the lowest peak out of the 5 studies, it looks about 700. the next 2 predictions are well beyond double that figure, the following one 3 times & the highest prediction in excess of 4 times. What do you call that one ? The Overly Exaggerated Worser than Worse-Case Scenario.
If is wasn't so serious, it would be laughable.
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Yes sorry should have said that's the expected number who die from covid in the left,
Most seam to have discounted the Cambridge curve saying it's to much based on the worst happening all the time,
It seams that the Warwick curve is the closest to the virus actual track at the moment, which I am really hoping is right and we will be down to no covid dieing by April,
Imperial think that Xmas will have a bigger effect on things and will keep the covid in higher numbers for longer before it's natural die off in the summer,
As for the government one no one has a clue how they come up with that lol

you can say that again!! they have no real idea what works and what DOESN'T work

(26-11-2020 12:59 )winsaw Wrote:  

(26-11-2020 12:20 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  Now officially confirmed Liverpool will be in Tier 2, London in tier 2.

Proved the regional restrictions where working Liverpool going from the worst to a level 2 there was no need for a national lockdown they just needed to give the regional rules time to work,

Explain Kent then

I'm glad you have no influence on this stuff because you are far too cavalier with other peoples lives for my liking

I think assumptions are being made regarding whether this virus will naturally burn itself out. Many unanswered questions concerning the virus mutating or not, truth is the experts don't know.
Very easy to cherry-pick the good or bad data & take it in isolation, you have to take in the big-picture.

(26-11-2020 12:59 )winsaw Wrote:  

(26-11-2020 12:20 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  Now officially confirmed Liverpool will be in Tier 2, London in tier 2.

Proved the regional restrictions where working Liverpool going from the worst to a level 2 there was no need for a national lockdown they just needed to give the regional rules time to work,

main reason why Liverpool going down was the Army doing testing for anyone who wanted it there found loads of Asymptomatic people who would have been spreading it otherwise