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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

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RE: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
The experts can't agree on the theory, some are dismissing it outright, with others saying they think it is possible.

Quote:This theory however has been shot down by Spaniard Hugo Teso, a security consultant who explored the feasibility of flight systems being hijacked in a presentation he made at the Hack-In-The-Box security summit held in Amsterdam in April 2013.
Teso, a commercial pilot with a keen interest in aviation security demonstrated how, had said in his presentation then that with the use of an Android smartphone and specific codes, he could take over an aircraft’s flight and communication systems.
Speaking to FMT, he however dismissed the possibility that this may have happened in the case of MH370.
“To even try an attack against the onboard systems would require a great deal of effort and resources.
“I’m quite certain that this sort of attack was not carried,” said Teso.
“Just common sense and without knowing much of the details, it is more likely that a chain of errors, malfunction or a sabotage or attack are reasons for MH370 to go missing.”
During his presentation at the annual hacker’s summit last year, Teso claimed he could use an ‘attack code’ he developed called ‘SIMON’ and an Android application called ‘PlaneSploit’ to take over full control of not only the plane’s onboard system but also the pilot’s display screens.

Teso said that his presentation was done to highlight vulnerabilities in the Automated Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) and Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS).
He said he wanted to alert the aviation industry in general as the current system was not prepared to handle such an attack.
Following Teso’s findings, the US’ Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) swiftly refuted his claim saying “it is impossible to fully takeover control of an aircraft, as alleged”.
Professor Husin Jazri, former CEO of CyberSecurity Malaysia, said that in theory cyber hijacking can work but in reality it is not always possible.
“Taking control of a plane using remote access by someone in the plane can be easily derailed and overcome by the pilots taking over the controls manually. The pilots have greater control and cannot be electronically bypassed that easily,” Husin told FMT.
“This is the same scenario in supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) environments but there are many loopholes which can be exploited as the individual is required to be on site or within frequency range,” he added.
SCADA is an industrial control system (ICS) using computers to monitor and control industrial processes used in manufacturing, water treatment plants and electricity power grids.
MH370 went missing an hour into its flight over the South China Sea on March 8 after taking off from the Kuala Lumpur International Airport en route to Beijing, China.
Investigators have confirmed that the flight’s communication system and transponders were disabled on board.

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19-03-2014 22:08
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(18-03-2014 19:30 )babelover48 Wrote:  How far is it from Kuala Lumpur the Maldives? If those reports are substantiated then it would match up the report of a "seismic" event that was reported earlier.

The seismic event that was reported earlier took place in the South China Sea between Malaysia and Vietnam. It therefore isn't relevant to anything that may have happened in or around the Maldives.
19-03-2014 22:32
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RE: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
If the US shot it down then they have a lot to answer for!! But I think it would have only happened if they got no response from the pilot or co - pilot and if it was flying on auto pilot then that WOUULD have forced them to shoot it down. But what is bugging me now is, why was Diego Garcia on the pilot's simulator in the first place? could it be that Diego Garcia was in fact the intended target if it was known to him as being a US military base?

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19-03-2014 22:45
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RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion
(17-03-2014 11:13 )king of a lost kingdom Wrote:  is it possible that the two Iranians on stolen passports have pulled off on the greatest heists ever?

I think the two Iranians on stolen passports are innocent, and just one of the many red herrings, but I think the possibility of it being some kind of heist rather than an act of terrorism should be taken seriously.
20-03-2014 01:08
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RE: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
The reason the plane's proving hard to find is that someone didn't want it found. I think it's been flown into the remote Indian ocean as far south as the fuel load allowed, because someone knew that would make it pretty difficult to find, maybe even impossible.
20-03-2014 03:52
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(18-03-2014 23:08 )Tumble_Drier Wrote:  As far as I know the Malaysians have only said there was enough fuel for the Beijing trip and haven't declared actual figures.

I don't claim to be an expert, but any climbing / descending or meandering around is going to eat into that remaining fuel pretty quickly as the fuel calculations will be based on maximum time at cruise speed & altitude where it's most efficient.

News flash. The exact fuel load has been disclosed by Malaysia Airlines: 49.1 metric tons of fuel for a total takeoff weight of 223.5 tons.

This would give the plane about 8 hours total range, assuming it maintained normal cruise altitude, burning about 6.1 tons per hour.

As was stated above, any climbing or descending would change the rate of fuel consumption, as would any low level flying to avoid radar.
20-03-2014 04:36
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Breaking news:- Australian Parliament disclose that Australian Maritime report they have spotted debris in the Indian Ocean west of Perth and 1 shape being over 20+ metres in length.
If that is proven to be the case and it is definitely the plane, then the plane is on the ocean bed somewhere and I think to exactly locate it will require some kind of sonar detection, and certainly it would seem to me that hit the water at such terrific speed and sank pretty quickly. But they are stressing it could be also unrelated to the plane. Could there also have been a mid air collision at some point too? I'm now wondering if this certainly was an elaborate mass suicide scenario of some degree.

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20-03-2014 07:19
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RE: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Here's the latest from the BBC website - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26659951

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20-03-2014 10:07
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(20-03-2014 07:19 )babelover48 Wrote:  debris in the Indian Ocean west of Perth

I know there have been a lot of false leads in this case but I'm taking this one as being probably genuine, for the simple reason that the reported debris is exactly where I think the plane is. I believe it was flown south as far as the fuel load would permit and the went down in the area where this reported debris has been found.
20-03-2014 12:06
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RE: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Let's hope sooner or later that it is a genuine credible lead. If it is not, then the mystery deepens further. For a pilot of his exemplary standing, you do begin to wonder if he was coerced in some way to act as he did and if so who by and for what specific reason?

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