Ofcom Discussion

Obviously Mr Blunkett was bothered about his faithful hound Lucy being offended as he is blind and cannot see a TV, monitor etc etc..

(23-09-2013 18:45 )mr mystery Wrote:  Ofcom go on to say (exact quote) " In Ofcom's view the broadcast of this material in adult chat advertising content was likely to cause serious widespread offence against generally accepted moral or cultural standards"

How the fuck do Ofcom come to the decision that what was shown by Playboy TV Chat after 12am in a specialist adult section clearly labelled and given a 18 cert in the EPG will cause serious widespread offence against generally accepted moral and cultural standards is beyond me, you can see far harder content on regular non adult channels, so how come Ofcom think people will be seriously offended if they see it broadcast on a adult channel but not on a regular channel ? .

They can't think that, and no right-thinking person could either. I mean, does anyone here think that the original complainant could have been genuine? That is, someone offended because of something of a sexual nature shown on an adult channel, bearing the designation and logo Playboy, between 00:00 and 00:30? Genuinely shocked, that is, or offended, because his or her expectations of what s/he would be subjected to were so wide of the mark? ("I had hoped to see buttocks, but imagine my horror when she put her finger in her mouth!")

What Ofcom are, of course, is a symptom or an expression of a political doctrine -- interfere, interfere, and interfere again -- that's increasingly being rejected by the Great British public. Their M.O. is, unsurprisingly, identical to that of their Westminster paymasters: make yourself appear indispensable by forever coming up with "solutions" to non-existent problems.

They can't be reasoned with; there is no logic to their actions beyond self aggrandizement and self-perpetuation. They simply have to be removed - by proxy, by voting completely differently in national elections. And incredibly, the prospect of this happening is becoming ever more a reality.

I'm not advocating any particular party, only pointing to the prospect of opportunity a change to the political landscape presents. And if I may briefly stray a bit further down the political path just this once (I won't make it a habit, mods, promise): Thatcher once reckoned her greatest achievement was Tony Blair. Tony Blair's greatest achievement was arguably David Cameron...

Cameron's greatest achievement now looks like being Nigel Farage. Unlucky, Dave. (Thanks, though )

(24-09-2013 01:19 )hatessexistofcom Wrote:  Ofcom say they never watch programmes or anything beforehand SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING MONITORING THE BABE CHANNELS THEN,thats sinister and yet another bloody hyprocrital thing Ofcom do.

Ofcom may not watch anything beforehand, but they do on occasions monitor what's being broadcast.

(26-09-2013 10:04 )admiral decker Wrote:  

(24-09-2013 01:19 )hatessexistofcom Wrote:  Ofcom say they never watch programmes or anything beforehand SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING MONITORING THE BABE CHANNELS THEN,thats sinister and yet another bloody hyprocrital thing Ofcom do.

Ofcom may not watch anything beforehand, but they do on occasions monitor what's being broadcast.

I don't know how occasional the monitoring is, but Ofcom said themselves earlier this year that they will be specifically targeting and motoring the phone in babe channels, this is mentioned a few times in their various bulletins, in fact some of the Studio 66 recent in breach rulings have come about through Ofcom's monitoring of Studio 66 and not through complaints made by the general public, this is stated by Ofcom in their bulletins .

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Just found the relevant statement in Ofcom's broadcast bulletin issue number 223 .
This is exactly what Ofcom say : "We are commencing a TARGETED monitoring exercise of ALL services broadcasting daytime and adult chat content". Broadcasters are put on notice that any serious or repeated failings in this area are likely to result in Ofcom taking further regulatory action, for example, the imposition of statutory sanctions"

So are the little wankers at Ofcom tower's sat watching and recording all the babe channels day and night !! .

(26-09-2013 10:44 )mr mystery Wrote:  So are the little wankers at Ofcom tower's sat watching and recording all the babe channels day and night !! .

Surely we have enough members on this forum who are more than worthy of doing such a job without it costing the taxpayers any money as we'll happily monitor the channels 24/7 for nothing

Report to ofcom the next day - Sorry officer I never seen a thing

TV channels are easy meat. I would prefer they censored the nasty UFC channels and inflammatory religious shows peddling intolerance. Wonder where OFCON staff go on holiday? Surely not Spain other Mediterranean country where women, shock horror, go topless?

I'm surprised that nobody has posted this yet but at ofcom HQ 3 new appointments have been made.

From the ofcom website on the 18th September 2013

Ofcom today announced the appointment of three new members to its Content Board.

CONTENT BOARD

The Content Board is the committee of the main Ofcom Board with delegated responsibility for TV and radio content issues, including setting and enforcing quality and standards. It includes members who represent each of the four nations of the UK.

The new appointments are:

Andrew Chitty

Andrew is the founder and Executive Director of Digital Life Sciences, which uses online technologies to deliver better healthcare services.
Andrew Colman
Andrew served for 13 years as Head of News & Current Affairs for BBC Northern Ireland and as a member of its senior management board. He has extensive experience of radio and television production.

Lesley McKenzie

Previously Group Digital Officer at LOVEFiLM, Lesley is Chief Operating Officer for Engage Sports Media, a digital production studio specialising in sports programming and distribution.

The appointments take effect on 18 September 2013.

Tim Gardam, Chairman of the Content Board and a Member of the Ofcom Board, said: “I am delighted that we have three experienced individuals joining the Content Board.”

“As we face the increasing challenge of content being delivered to people over a variety of platforms, I am confident that they will make a valuable contribution to the important work we have to do to ensure that standards and quality on television and radio are maintained.”

Now whether or not this is to be to the benefit of the UK Babe Channels is anybody's guess

If there is someone on this forum who is educated, without convictions, who doesn't mind being associated with "watching babes", who wants to represent the babe channels, then apply here:

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consult...lstatement

Ofcom is today inviting members of the public, as well as those working in the industries it regulates, to contribute to its work plan and priorities for the next financial year.

The ‘Invitation to Comment’ encourages anyone with an interest in Ofcom's activities to offer their views on which areas of the telecoms, media, postal and spectrum industries should be addressed in Ofcom’s Annual Plan for 2014/15.

Responses from the public and stakeholders will help inform the draft Annual Plan, which Ofcom will consult on in December. Ofcom expects to publish its final plan in March 2014.

Comments should be submitted by 5pm on 24 October 2013.

(26-09-2013 16:26 )Scottishbloke Wrote:  

(26-09-2013 10:44 )mr mystery Wrote:  So are the little wankers at Ofcom tower's sat watching and recording all the babe channels day and night !! .

Surely we have enough members on this forum who are more than worthy of doing such a job without it costing the taxpayers any money as we'll happily monitor the channels 24/7 for nothing

Report to ofcom the next day - Sorry officer I never seen a thing

There was a time not so long ago when that might have been an interesting job. But "generally accepted standards" have moved on markedly these last three or four years, don't you know. (And if that isn't the case, how come all the increased regulation?)

Today's shows, the ones between 5:30am and 10pm anyway, are now so de-sexed even the regulator can't be arsed tuning in.

(26-09-2013 21:04 )Scottishbloke Wrote:  I'm surprised that nobody has posted this yet but at ofcom HQ 3 new appointments have been made.

From the ofcom website on the 18th September 2013

[color=#0000CD]Ofcom today announced the appointment of three new members to its Content Board.

CONTENT BOARD...

ANDREW CHITTY
Founder of Digital Life Sciences, an IT company supplying the NHS, formed by merging Maverick TV, Illumina Digital and Clever Together. Here is a cap of former Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt speaking at the launch event. Connected? Was a ministerial advisor to the department of Business, Innovation and Skills (connected again), was one of the authors of The Digital Britain Report (HMSO 2009), the white paper that launched the concept that public services should be ‘digital by default’ and universally available, a Non-Executive Director of Creative England, a past chair of the National Skills Council for Digital Media and have lectured in digital and service design at INA in Paris, the RCA in London and at the University of Falmouth as a Visiting Professor. Biography

Sounds like a good hard working bloke, but also not someone who argues with the government. Heaven forbid the suggestion that he has half an eye on an eventual OBE. Independent? Difficult when so closely linked to government in the past.

And lets face it, what does he know about producing cutting edge drama or getting bums on seats?

ANDREW COLEMAN
Another journalist. Like journalists know about producing cutting edge drama or getting bums on seats.

LESLEY McKENZIE
Former interim Chief Executive at Kangeroo, the online venture between the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 that was blocked by the Competition Commission. (Not her fault as a interim CEO). Former CEO of Web123TV, a search widget for TV shows. Head of LoveFilms digital activity. Previously worked for Sky in India and the UK. Brand Republic biog. The Kangeroo involvement seems to be before 2009 Broadcast Now. (123WebTV links: Apple freeware widget
Guardian Elevator Pitch (2009) "It employs five staff at its base in Hammersmith, west London and is funded, so far, by private backers. ... We only link to sites which we believe have legal content."

Nice lady, but again, what does she know about the fine line between creating exciting content and sensational exploitation?

Yet again there is not a single ordinary member of the public. Not one person who creates drama as an actor, director, producer of TV or plays, playwright, poet or author. Instead there is a BBC executive from the journalism area (noted for factual content, not imagination), someone familiar with Whitehall who gets no less than the Health Minister to turn up to his companys launch party and a techie director of media companies (that's media access, not media creation).

There isn't even anyone experienced in evaluating the impact of entertainment, a psychologist, priest or ex copper.

I am sure they mean well, but the producer of TisWas probably faced, and resolved, more dilemmas about where acceptable boundaries lay in a single episode than they have faced, together, in their entire careers.