(18-02-2010 12:59 )BIG D Wrote: (17-02-2010 07:16 )IanG Wrote: Are some of you old enough to be looking at this type of material? Are you telling me you've never seen someone piss before? Never been to a public toilet? Never watched your g/f - you have had a girl friend right?
It's pissing - wee all do it.
Ah well, I guess there's a first time for everyone...
Those that say they "didn't need to see it" actually did.
Grow UP ffs!
Don't think they are stating that they have never seen anyone piss before. Just that like me they don't find it sexually appealing. Plus why the fuck would you watch your girlfriend while she pisses, what shit do you get up too.
Big D, I don't recall ever doing any 'shit'. I don't find 'scat' appealing if that's what your implying - turns my guts. And I'm not into 'watersports' either but, I can take it or leave it in adult entertainment (good job really because one of my long ago exes was a bit of a 'squirter' (and it wasn't pee)).
What I was referring to is that its simply an inevitable consequence of living together that a couple will from time to time be using the bathroom at the same instance. And you'd better get used to seeing people piss and crap and, indeed, wiping their arses if you're going to have children.
As I said, those who feel they "don't need" (as opposed to want) to see this type of activity most certainly do - if they're to know the full realm of human experience and rightly call themselves a rational human being.
And I'm happy to see Gemma is a woman of the world, free of the straight jacket of British 'tradition'.
I do not allow myself to be misguided by 'our' British social conditioning. If we lived in France, seeing men and women piss would be (or was) commonplace. If we lived in Africa, seeing people stark bollock naked would be commonplace.
Ofcom's treatment of 'adult' TV is based on their unhealthy attitudes toward what they believe might harm children or offend adults - adults that were themselves as children 'protected' from the realities of 'adult' entertainment. This is the self-sustaining cycle that brainwashes people into the British 'porn is harmful' mindset. It is no more real than the belief in the toothfairy yet, Ofcom (and Gov.) use these 'traditional' beliefs to deny liberated adults the right to view what we like and, worse still, extort money from channels trying to give us adult entertainment or, in the case of Gov., throw us in jail.
Nothing that is natural can ever be obscene or offensive, harmful or corrupting. And somehow people just like us managed to get along just fine for over 250,000 years without holier than thou types filling their heads with utter bullshit.
What I find offensive is people being allowed to justify atrocities and impose unmitigated human rights abuses in the name of beliefs and religion.
Nothing to do with the natural human condition offends me at all, in fact, I've just about seen it all so I know what to expect. Little exceeds my expectations so I guess this is why Ofcom don't want anyone experiencing sex and nudity so that they (Ofcom/Gov.) may make their extraordinary claims based on British 'tradition' and continue to deny us all what we'd really like see and, have a right to experience.
Censorship is a lie by ommission. Ignorance is the root of all suffering. Thus, censorship does more harm than good.
The hypocrisy in the Government's "education, education, education" mantra should be obvious I think but, it seems few truly see it.
Sorry to go on but, y'know...