Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(01-04-2017 08:27 )HannahsPet Wrote:  it wont happen Spain trying it on EU wont take sides Spain wont want to lose tourist money if they try to invade Britain will invoke article 5 of the Nato treaty and Nato will get involved. EU wont take Spanish side because will look a cunty move on there side they are all about intergration and they would forcibly making 30,000 people change countries against there will. would hard to criticise Russia for Crimea then

my guess they will do something like they will have to do with the irish question and make a Common Travel area between mainland spain and Gibralter and allow goods and services between them.

would think the EU couldn't afford to resolve a territorial dispute as hot as Gibraltar and quite agree mate it would look a cunty move if EU took sides with Spain ovr the rock but then again, could they force Gibraltar to hold a referendum?

Yeah a referendum but the one in 2002 was 99% for staying part of the UK

(01-04-2017 08:10 )Tumble_Drier Wrote:  The EU needs to be very careful about getting involved in territorial disputes. That's a very dangerous path to go down.

They don't seem to be getting involved.

They seem to be saying that Gibraltar isn't an issue for the EU, it's something to be resolved between the UK and Spain.

but they are because of something in the draft of negoitations saying that nothing about brexit deal applys to Gibralter unless both Spain and the UK decide. so basically its giving the Spanish a say over what happens to Gibraltar and wether the deal goes thru or not

The spanish have already said they will attempt to stop flights to Gibraltar airport when all the landing rights are up for discussion if that happens and they shut the border then gibraltar is cut off apart from boat

(01-04-2017 12:47 )HannahsPet Wrote:  its giving the Spanish a say over what happens to Gibraltar

The Spanish already have a say over what happens to Gibraltar. All 27 remaining members of the EU do, if they wish to.

The EU seem to be saying that they will leave it to Spain and the UK to come to some arrangement between them.

(01-04-2017 09:46 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Yeah a referendum but the one in 2002 was 99% for staying part of the UK

And in 2016, 96% voted to stay in the EU.

Just wondering if there are enough troops there to fight off any Spanish invasion, mind you they have threatened to invade for years but never did anything about it
I wonder if Gibraltar actually felt disappointed with us for voting to leave the EU rather than voting the same as us and staying in

(02-04-2017 01:29 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 09:46 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Yeah a referendum but the one in 2002 was 99% for staying part of the UK

And in 2016, 96% voted to stay in the EU.

yeah but unlike the scots they are not whiney and want independence

(02-04-2017 06:06 )babelover48 Wrote:  Just wondering if there are enough troops there to fight off any Spanish invasion

worse comes to worse can always put suicide vests on the barbery apes and let them lose on. those monkeys are vicious buggers

I actually like gibraltar been there a few times when family friends were stationed there when i was younger. great island with great people and very british.


Anyway cant let the spanish have them because then the french will be wanting the Channel islands back then the argies will think they can take the falklands back

What were we thinking sending that patrol boat out to that Spanish warship in Gibraltar waters yesterday? That probably made the Spanish navy think we don't have any bigger boats!! P: