Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(05-05-2017 12:21 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 12:12 )wackawoo Wrote:  Firstly, it states that it's a 100% increase in Dorset, the highest increase. This implies that before brexit there were next to no hate crimes whatsoever in the whole of Dorset, and after 104 reported case.

No, it doesn't. It implies there were 52 reported before and 104 after.

If you're going to try and manipulate the statistics, at least get the basics right

Edit: Ha, beat me to it Terence

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Did you read what I put?

I stated there were NEXT TO NO HATE CRIMES in the whole of Dorset, not once did I mention numbers, as your quote of mine clearly confirms.

So, before there were 52 reported hate crimes of unkown severity and unknown racial origen.

The population of Dorset is 765,700

https://www.dorsetforyou.gov.uk/statistics

This figure is just the popluation which will significantly increase by an unknown amount due to it being a popular tourist attraction.

52 divided by 765,700 times by 100 = 0.0068% Hate crimes of unknown severity and unknown racial group.

After Brexit

104 divided by 765,700 times by 100 = 0.014%

Now go on, please, no pretty please tell me that is wrong. If it is wrong, please calculate the percentages yourself.

Has I stated, in the entire county of Dorset next to nothing, before AND after Brexit. Note much consolation for those who have been attack, but not exactly the rivers runing with blood either is it.

Now the pair of you wash the creme off one another and DO stop with this rediculous habbit of trying to make me look stupid, becasue you only make yourself look even more stupid in the long run.

(05-05-2017 15:56 )wackawoo Wrote:  Now the pair of you wash the creme off one another and DO stop with this rediculous habbit of trying to make me look stupid, becasue you only make yourself look even more stupid in the long run.

do you wanna know what's ridiculous? the way you spell ridiculous (and 'because)!

(sorry, it was right there!)

(05-05-2017 12:38 )SecretAgent Wrote:  Stop trying to twist the FACTS. Hate crimes increased in the 3 months post BREXIT. Informed commentators have indicated that this is because the idiots who committed these crimes felt emboldened by the BREXIT vote. It was also widely reported that instances of immigrants being told "to go home" were occuring in areas where the vote for BREXIT was strong.

'Told to go home'. well that's never been said before. You are linking Brexit with hate crimes that was the entire point of your post.

Quote:You claim to be intelligent and good at statistics. Seemingly you are not as bright as you think. A 100% increase in Dorset means that before BREXIT there were 52 reported crimes. A 100% increase takes you to 104.

See my previous answer to silent majority.

Quote:Please don't make false accusations that I have run my country down. You have no idea about what I have contributed to this country.

Any body who amplifies are associates hate crimes with Brexit and tries to make that representative of England as a whole are doing just that. Hate crimes are incredibly rare, but you wouldn't think it.

Quote:It is my understanding that hate crimes include any crimes that are racially or religiously motivated so your point is false.

thereby making any assotiating or links with Brexit completely mute, null and void.

Yes, there has been reported increase, nobody is denying that, but it's far and away too complex to assotiate it purely down to Brexit; of course some will.

(05-05-2017 16:03 )terence Wrote:  do you wanna know what's ridiculous? the way you spell ridiculous (and 'because)!

(sorry, it was right there!)

Shut up

The problem with this increase in reported hate crime is just that, they are typically only reports, commonly coupled with little to no real evidence.
See, there is a problem with the system we use for reporting hate crimes, since the authorities have pushed for further incidents to be reported (they want to be seen to be doing something ) we now have many incidents being logged as such and as I say, usually with very little to no real evidence.
And because of this, reports of hate crimes have been on the rise and long before Brexit too.
A convenient myth in conjunction with Brexit that I find rather cheap.

(05-05-2017 15:56 )wackawoo Wrote:  A smokescreen of waffle and numbers.

Seriously, are you actually Diane Abbott?

(08-05-2017 06:42 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 15:56 )wackawoo Wrote:  A smokescreen of waffle and numbers.

Seriously, are you actually Diane Abbott?

Erm, I have just read back the last two post I made since your head long charge into telling me how stupid I was at percentages (Were did I mention 52? or any number as far as that goes again), but, where on Earth have I written that phrase?

A smokescreen of waffle and numbers, that's quite poetic.

(08-05-2017 07:08 )wackawoo Wrote:  A smokescreen of waffle and numbers, that's quite poetic.

Thank you.

I think whatever the election result the one thing that can be guaranteed is that the negotiating party probably won't be the same as it is now - and if that proves to be the case - probably will make a complete cock up of the negotiations so badly, that we will have to have a referendum to actually AGREE to go back IN!!

(05-05-2017 13:21 )SecretAgent Wrote:  Juncker is a known alcoholic and gossip so that hasn't changed with BREXIT. He's never forgiven us for not voting for him. He certainly is not doing the EU any favours the way he is behaving though.

Best we can hope for is that he is drunk for the entire Brexit negotiations so the we come out of it way better than we went into them - think of all the free Prosecco for life Boris could probably get for every household!!