General Election 2019

(13-12-2019 09:32 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  Oh dear Jo Swinson !laugh starting the campaign introduced as “campaigning to be the uk’s next pm” to finishing the campaign no longer an mp

Mind you Boris probably still has to put up with Wee Nicola Sturgeon to nag him at every opportunity!!

The great British working man stared into Dante's inferno, the abyss of Stalinist, statist poverty, cultural Marxism and endless suffocating servitude to the EU machine. He chose instead the sunlit uplands of independence, freedom, and free markets.

And all despite a relentless anti-Conservative BBC Channel 4, Sky news media onslaught. Well done "Keighley Man", you did your forefather "Essex man" from the glorious Thatcher era, proud.

Corbyn's delusional.
Yes a lot of people voted for Boris because they either supported Brexit or they have been warn down with the process.
But a lot of the voters had a straight decision. And they prefered a charlaton than someone who policies and beliefs were unpalletable.

Labour have wasted a decade with leaders who aren't suitable.

I've just seen a clip on Twitter of Alan Johnson (Labour Home Secretary a few years ago) on Sky last night taking apart John Lansmann of Momentum and saying he wanted him and his cult out of the Labour Party.

He's right but do I think Labour will listen? Not whilst Corbyn and his cronies seek to screw the election for his successor in favour of another cultist.

Milliband changed the Labour internal constitutional arrangements for membership and leadership elections and stupidly ensured that entryist Momentum loony lefties will be nigh-on impossible to excise from the party.

Kinnock excised Militant Tendency and the Derek Hattonites (Momentum are essentially the same thing, 30 years on) in the late 80s and early 90s after a bitter struggle. This will be worse if not impossible.

If Labour don't wake up and smell the coffee they might be finished as a major party for sometime. This whole far left momentum stuff isn't something that is electable in this country, we're by default central lefty or at least certainly not what Labour have turned into over the last 4 years or so. Labour have drifted from Blair to Corbyn in the last 22 years, too right to too far left. Not to mention being disconnected with their core voters to the focus on pretty much anyone bar those who they use to speak for. Whatever people think of Boris and his many failings he still won, simply because of what Labour and Corbyn have become IMO.

At least one thing is for certain, we are all in this together, whatever happens.
I hope Boris makes sensible choices going forward, he has to please a lot of people with a lot of promises made. It's gonna be interesting.

Look, it's cold, but the sun is out, Friday the 13th's are generally good days, I'm gonna try to remain hopeful.

Main problem for labour is they have always thought they could take the north and midlands for granted because they would never vote tory in a million years. if you look at what happened in Rotherham and Rochdale and other scandals. and yet they voted labour but brexit changed that

Just hope all these votes for the tories mean they will finally give a shit about they north as they now know they will votes to lose

Only consolation was that my MP lindsay hoyle survived thanks to being new speaker although I think he would have survived anyway

I now have a simple position for anyone who is lower income, dependent on the NHS, social care and services, who see's their cost of living go up, sees their rights eroded but voted for these arseholes. When the investment doesn't come into the Northern areas but high earners get tax breaks, deal with it. You voted to get your beloved Brexit and everything that happens elsewhere in the country will be impacted by it.

I've always voted conservative until this election because these guys are about as unprincipled as politicains have ever got. I'll be able to ride out whatever happens next and, being a decent earner, I may even be better off. The country will be much the poorer.

So for those Labour voters who defected to the Tories, suck it up boys

As an aside:
1) Swinson losing her seat was hilarious as she helped cause this election
2) Spurgeon celebrating Swinson's loss was brilliantly funny
3) Losing Dennis Skinner is a real tragedy; though I disagreed with his politics the man had passion
4) Labour and Momentum don't look like they've learnt a fucking thing

I think now this is over, it's important we try and move forward as united as possible. This election answered the major question that has been hanging about this country for 3 years, Brexit, more specifically the need for a 2nd vote/peoples vote. Personally feel pretty optimistic about it, it's going to be an interesting journey that's for sure, especially to see what happens with the other parties moving forward and how they reinvent themselves which following this election they will need to.