Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

there's only 2 likely outcomes. no deal brexit or 2nd referendum, no brexit.

the good friday agreement allows for nothing else and the dup will never accept a border down the irish sea.

Anyone else getting really irritated with whoever that is ringing the bell non-stop in the background on the news channels?

Been irritated by the news channels for fucking years coming from there

The vote should take place between 8pm -8:30pm

The hard line Brexiteers face losing a Brexit altogether, as the decision may be passed back for a 2nd referendum.

The Prime Minister won't be backed and I think it might come down to either another referendum or a people's vote. She might go back to the EU but they won't budge on most of what she wants. Either way, this is going to carry on for months OR maybe years after we leave(assuming that happens) It's all a bloody mess and one thing is for sure, it is not the BREXIT that people thought they were going to get. May has also played right into Sturgeon's hands which means sooner or later the spectre of Independence will rear its head again(so much for once-in-a-lifeitime) and heaven knows who will be the next PM - most of them are just as bad as each other.

I'm predicting a vote defeat somewhere between 75 v-130 votes

one amendmenrt was soundly beaten 24 for 600 against

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vote result expected in 15-20 minutes

she lost

202 for 432 against

a big defeat

Yeah it was expected to be pretty high and the EU won't budge on things so either she is going to be the supersalesperson of the century and persuade them otherwise OR the motion of no confidence tabled by Jeremy Corbyn will eventually trigger a General Election. A people's vote? Not sure but it has been gathering momentum for months and a no-deal is still pretty disastrous for many.

(15-01-2019 19:41 )babelover48 Wrote:  she lost

202 for 432 against

a big defeat

Biggest Government defeat in modern history. Most Tory rebels ever (118)