(22-12-2016 19:23 )ShandyHand Wrote: I have the distinct impression that you supported that figure as fact at the time or at least denigrated the sources that pointed out its fallacy. If that impression is wrong then I apologise.
Apology accepted. I was neutral in the Bexit thing, didn't vote. I was happy to accept the accusations of crap that was coming form the Brexit camp, but there was a whole heap coming out of the remain as well, but the remian on that thread was by far the more vocal, so it just looked like is was for Brexit, but I did stated my stance on many occasions.
I can see where Brexit will be very good for Britian, but it was a very risky step and nobody can know the future. As for remain, Britian was the 5th richest country in the world, there was alot of problems with being in the EU, but ultimately I couldn't see any reaosn to upset the apple cart, so I didn't vote. My mind has swayed between good move and oh shit ever since.
Challanging either sides presuppositions is a way i have of making things clear in my own mind. If I challange them to the point i can no longer it is at that point I can then accept their view point. The 350 mil brexit was just a no brainer to start with.
Quote:But that is the thing, you quite often use weighty words without a full recognition of their implications on the reader. Propaganda is by its nature intended to be manipulative. You were arguing that the showing of the child's body was done specifically for the effect of manipulating the emotions of the viewer. You can't now claim that this wasn't inherent in your words.
Yes I hear what you say, but emotive images are meant to do just that. I do not retract what I stated.
Quote:Too often you stir people with an ill-conceived or overly hastily sketched concept and then blame them for not understanding you properly when they come back at you. That is going to put certain posters' backs-up
I actually don't intend to stir anything up, why would I? It's just what I put and how I put it seems illicet a reaction in a very few people. Others have said the same thing as I have but in a different way, some brave souls have even thanked my for my post on the subject. So it's more the reader and their interpritation than anything
Quote:No, I wouldn't say either. Eventually I know when to keep my gob shut!
That is saying I have no right to an opinion.
Quote:And because we both are now running the risk of picking up points for next years' Rod Serling forum award for appearances in the Twilight Zone, I will do just that!
There's no reason for this to be in any twilight zone. I made a thread with what i thought was a good idea and it has taken a life of it's own.