What is now the point of these channels

(19-01-2011 21:22 )mrichie10 Wrote:  people like who?? you wouldn't but i would aslong as it does whats on the tin which is spread pussy seeing action, and bangbabes went bust due to giving more than filthy chat so that nonsense right there

The FTA request show "tins" have certainly never carried that promise (which is maybe what you're saying; I can't quite tell ). Over the seven odd years of their existence, the FTA request shows have always dealt in tease and provocativeness. They're there to provide fuel for viewers with the strength of imagination to fantasise; and that's all they've really ever done, even back in the days when LiveXXX and CallgirlsXXX shows did their 'Peak of Pussy'/'Flash the Gash' shticks (done solely to entice people to stump up for the encrypted part of the shows).

Edit: single word correction

(21-01-2011 13:26 )Addison Wrote:  They're there to provide fuel for viewers with the strength of imagination to fantasise; and that's all they've really ever done...

Apart from when Dani O'Neal used to do her hardcore sessions in the 2am 'Private Babe' slot... and yes, I'm talking fta. We didn't need much 'strength of imagination' for those sessions. And did the world crumble and fall because of those times? Did it create a generation of sex monsters? I think the answer to both those questions is no.

imagination is everything. its why a babe looks better in underwear then naked. you imagination lets you run wild. if they are naked then the imagination has nothing to do. i know alot of pepole want to see the full nudity and thats fine. i prefer my imagination to do the work. them just to give me the foundations and me build the rest in my head!! but thats just my opinion!!! these channels will try to cater for as many people as possible so they get the most money possible!!! but thats just simple business!!!

(21-01-2011 15:32 )morethenahandful Wrote:  i prefer my imagination to do the work. them just to give me the foundations and me build the rest in my head!!

But with all due respect, mtah, you could do that watching the music channels, Strictly Come Dancing or even the weather reports.

The 900s liveshows are supposed to be aimed at adults, so why don't we get proper adult content?

tried the weather. difficult to wank too!!! not impossible tho and i'm sure most of us have had a wank over a music video i know i did when i saw Britney Spears as a school girl all those years ago!!! i'll give you the strictly tho. my girlfriends mum teaches dancing and it doesn't do it for me!!! respect to your opinions tho. that why i love this site!!!

(22-01-2011 12:17 )morethenahandful Wrote:  tried the weather. difficult to wank too!!! not impossible tho and i'm sure most of us have had a wank over a music video i know i did when i saw Britney Spears as a school girl all those years ago!!! i'll give you the strictly tho. my girlfriends mum teaches dancing and it doesn't do it for me!!! respect to your opinions tho. that why i love this site!!!

How about Eastenders and Strictly Come Dancing, both featuring Lucy Benjamin


Or Julia Bradbury on Countryfile


And talking of Countryfile, lets not forget the delicious Ellie Harrison,
who was wearing a rubber wetsuit the other night for an item about water skiing. Only trouble is she seems too young to perv over.

Not very long ago you could tune into the babechannels, and more often than not there would be at least a couple of girls who would be only to willing to entertain you by showing a little bit more than they should have. But no harm was done, and it became accepted as more or less the norm, and everyone who watched enjoyed it. How times have changed since then. Could someone please tell me what as gone on in the last few months to make it so terribly wicked to be entertained in such a way.

It used to be the way of not knowing what to expect, and for me that was the appeal,"surprise". But now all that as gone, and what we are left with is girls that perform by being guided by the strict rulebook of some faceless bureaucrats. The sad thing is, that girls coming into the business,as well as the people who produce these programmes will accept these rules as the new norm, and I'm afraid, in the long run that will be the end of this type of televised entertainment.

Yes well looking at the channels tonight it's been so far a barrel of shite. I hope this decline doesn't worsen because I'm too beginning to question the point of having these channels on the air with the strictness of ofcom continually monitoring them. They are SUPPOSED to be erotic entertainment but they're not. Nothing more than a fucking tease. They would get more callers if only they would only show the goods but that involves standing up to ofcom but not one fucking channel has the balls to do so. It's fucking disgraceful that Adult Channels should have to be given as strict guidelines as they do. Fuck Ofcom I hope you all drown in a bucket of piss for effectively ruining the sexline industry.

(02-02-2011 01:25 )smell the roses Wrote:  Not very long ago you could tune into the babechannels, and more often than not there would be at least a couple of girls who would be only to willing to entertain you by showing a little bit more than they should have. But no harm was done, and it became accepted as more or less the norm, and everyone who watched enjoyed it. How times have changed since then. Could someone please tell me what as gone on in the last few months to make it so terribly wicked to be entertained in such a way.

It used to be the way of not knowing what to expect, and for me that was the appeal,"surprise". But now all that as gone, and what we are left with is girls that perform by being guided by the strict rulebook of some faceless bureaucrats. The sad thing is, that girls coming into the business,as well as the people who produce these programmes will accept these rules as the new norm, and I'm afraid, in the long run that will be the end of this type of televised entertainment.

No other broadcast genre is more micro managed and pro-actively monitored by the regulator than the babe channels. Due to the loose and very subjective nature of the advertising rules, at anyone time the regulator can find them in breach.
You've all seen the additional guidance issued late last year following the revocation of Bangs licensee's.

Well look at these and tell me i'm wrong and that decent shows will still happen.

From Ofc@m

Set out below are some of the key points to assist licensees when broadcasting these services. Please note that the following points are not exhaustive. Adult chat broadcasters should:

Not broadcast shots of bare breasts before 22:00;

at no time broadcast invasive shots of presenters’ bodies. Ofcom cautions against physically intrusive, intimate shots of any duration; and against less intrusive shots that may become unacceptable by virtue of their being prolonged;

at no time broadcast anal, labial or genital areas or broadcast images of presenters touching their genital or anal areas either with their hand or an object;

ensure that presenters’ clothing adequately covers their anal, labial or genital areas. They should also avoid adjusting their clothing (including clutching or bunching) which results in anal, labial or genital areas being exposed;

at no time broadcast images of any real or simulated sex acts (these include vaginal or anal intercourse, masturbation, fellatio or cunnilingus);

at no time include shots of presenters spitting onto their or others’ bodies, or include shots of presenters using other liquids, such as oil and lotions, on their genital or anal areas.

at no time broadcast shots of presenters using liquids of a sort or in a way which suggests the liquid is ejaculate;

at no time broadcast sexually explicit language;

ensure any sexual language broadcast is restrained, and avoid its use altogether before midnight; and

ensure that where more than one presenter is in shot greater care is taken to avoid broadcasting the above images or language.

So there is not a total ban on 241's, the use of liquids is cautioned against but the babes can use restrained sexual language after midnight.

I do not know of any other specialist broadcasting sector being hounded to this extent.

Playboy and Just4Us are being called in for a last warning with complaints still outstanding against Playboy so expect the regulator to issue a large fine.

That will further panic the other channels into even stricter compliance and tamer shows.
Whilst Ofc@m cannot completely ban these channels from broadcasting, the broadcasters have an implicit right under the Communications Act 2003 to show such content, they can be fined into oblivion as is what happened with Bang.
Ofc@m needs to understand that sex is not harmful, they have yet to prove harm, it might offend some sectors of society but they can choose not to watch and it ain't going away.

The daytime shows are also being tamed into submission.

Daytime chat broadcasters should:

• ensure that presenters are wearing appropriate clothing, that adequately covers their bodies, in particular their breasts, genital areas and buttocks. Presenters should not wear revealing underwear, swimwear, gym wear or fetish clothing;
• not broadcast images of presenters touching or stroking their bodies in a suggestive manner, in particular avoiding breasts, thighs, crotches and buttocks;
• not broadcast images of presenters mimicking sexual intercourse by rocking and thrusting their bodies, or otherwise adopting sexual poses;
• not broadcast images of any mimed sex acts; and
• not broadcast close up and intrusive images of presenters breasts.

If the broadcasters do not fight their corner on this they will go the way of the dodo within the year. 2011 the Victorian era.

Under these strict rules I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if less than half the channels are still here come 6 months time. For me its either fight or flight. Ofcom have to at least relax the rules a bit more for the night shows. I'm not saying live dildo shows straight away but at least let us see the goods say after midnight. I still think after 9pm would be acceptable but in realistic terms midnight would be more feasible for some kind of negotiation between ofcom and the babe channels. Or another method is ofcom could tell SKY to hide these channels permanently from the EPG which could then be unlocked by the viewer or another method with technology these days could just be a simple call to SKY to have them remove the channels for you. We have the technology available these days to comply with the board of censors. The shows will only then truly evolve once these changes are put in place because at the moment its a cat and mouse game. My advice to the babe channels is sit down and have a meeting and try and come up with a solution that would keep all parties happy. 2011 doesn't have to be a Victorian era.