(Yesterday 23:48 )southsidestu Wrote: You never know, the polls were wrong in 2016, 2020 & 2022 and whilst Trump has been underpriced in both his elections, in the past two yrs pretty much every election at state & local level has underpriced the affect of Dobbs
This election is heavily gendered: Trump appealing to men & Harris to woman but men, particularly young men are low propensity voters with the lowest turn out where as the opposite is the case with woman
One of the reasons why the midterms went worse than expected for Republicans was that young voters turned out in higher numbers than usual this was driven by young female voters who were enthused by Dobbs
There is a belief (or maybe a hope) off the back of this, that in a bid to try to accurately capture the Trump vote pollsters are over correcting with non college educated white voters and in turn, under representing young woman
In addition the RNC has a week ground game when it comes to door knockers and getting people to the polls because Trump took over & gutted its finances to use for his legal bills, this is why Musk is on the scene. There is a lot of talk of Trumps popularity with young black men, i was listening to a reporter can't remember who, saying they were in Detroit, the biggest city in Michigan with a 78% black population, largest in US in % terms and they said the Republican party was nowhere to be seen. It would't surprise me if Harris' %s with black men are better on election day compared to current polling, not because i don't believe his popularity but because young black men are some of the lowest propensity voters in The US
Trump bashing Detroit while speaking in Detroit:
"Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she’s your president.”
Trump has bashed Detroit a few more times since then
You make a really solid point about the ground game. It's been outsourced. Rather than have passionate people on the ground, Elon is involved. It's quite disturbing.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-am...gan-uhaul/
About the polls. It's more about optics from the Trump team. Looking into a few, I get the impression these polls are done to try to make Trump appear up. Some of them (after a lot of digging) are really under representing Women/Minorities. Also there is a financial incentive for promoting Betting Sites (people on X are being paid to, what a shock) It's "Bro" Culture they are after, so gotta appear strong at all times
The foundation of Misinformation Elon Musk is really hyping up all the "fraud" taking place, when the incidents that are happening are from MAGA
I actually do watch some of his rallies. He's a shell of his former self. Cheaping out on venues isn't doing any favors. Showing up late, no enthusiasm, people leaving early as well
There's been a coordinated effort to bash Women voting AT ALL. Fox News and a few Right Wing Influencers want to take away Women's Right to Vote. The "vote behind his back" pitch has them upset