World War 3?

(15-04-2018 07:13 )Doddle Wrote:  The chemical attack so terrible that ONE US retaliation is considered "mission accomplished"?!

Only by Trump. Nobody with any credibility has said that.

(15-04-2018 07:13 )Doddle Wrote:  The chemical attack which was "alleged" last week and is still "suspected" this week?!

The US says they have hard evidence but they haven't released it. They could have people on the ground they need to protect though. So it's a simple choice. Do you believe Putin and Assad or the US intelligence service. They can't both be lying. Your default setting of "everybody's lying" won't work here.

(15-04-2018 07:13 )Doddle Wrote:  The chemical attack which makes NO strategic sense whatsoever?

Not on the face of it. But I have no idea exactly what things are like on the ground, in Syria. And neither have you.

THe UK based it's evidence on the guilt of Syria on the fact that on the ground reports stated the gas was delivered by barrell bomb and that a helicopter was above the area at the time. Neither of these are used by the rebels.

Also in terms of culpability the US State Department have sad that Assad has used gas 50 times to their knowledge.

I see Comrade Corbyn couldn't manage to condem Russia for Salisbury this morning on the Andrew Mar show. Well I give him some credit for being consistent - unfortunately the 1st duty of a Prime Minister is to defend the country - oh wait a minute he's defending Russia so that makes sense if he wants the UK to be a part of Russia

(15-04-2018 07:36 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ I’ve not seen any US claim it was Sarin - whats your source please?

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/14/polit...index.html

The Silent Majority Wrote:Only by Trump. Nobody with any credibility has said that.

Trump is the guy making it happen. If he didn't want to launch any attack, there wouldn't be one. QED.

Quote:They can't both be lying. Your default setting of "everybody's lying" won't work here.

That's not my default setting

Secret Agent Wrote:I see Comrade Corbyn couldn't manage to condem Russia for Salisbury this morning on the Andrew Mar show.

Well, it's still not proven, is it?

Boris backtracking on what he said about Porton Down:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...ichok-case

Not to mention the OPCW finding a Western nerve agent present:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018...d-findings

OK, so Macron is claiming he egged Trump on to attack, so that's good of him (!)

(15-04-2018 12:58 )Doddle Wrote:  

The Silent Majority Wrote:Only by Trump. Nobody with any credibility has said that.

Trump is the guy making it happen. If he didn't want to launch any attack, there wouldn't be one. QED.

He's also the guy who was pulling out of Syria last week. What he says barely holds good to the end of the day.

(15-04-2018 12:58 )Doddle Wrote:  Boris backtracking on what he said about Porton Down:

Boris talking shit is hardly a revelation.

(15-04-2018 12:58 )Doddle Wrote:  Not to mention the OPCW finding a Western nerve agent present:

Says who?

(15-04-2018 20:15 )Doddle Wrote:  OK, so Macron is claiming he egged Trump on to attack, so that's good of him (!)

More fake news

What Macron actually said was - he persuaded Trump to limit the attack to chemical weapons facilities.

(15-04-2018 21:22 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(15-04-2018 12:58 )Doddle Wrote:  Not to mention the OPCW finding a Western nerve agent present:

Says who?

Says the OPCW! The clue was in the statement!

Or are you saying the Guardian is reporting fake news?

(16-04-2018 06:47 )Doddle Wrote:  Says the OPCW! The clue was in the statement!

Or are you saying the Guardian is reporting fake news?

No, I'm saying you didn't read it properly.

Quote:the UN-linked Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) had sent the Skripals’ biomedical samples to Swiss experts who found they contained traces of the nerve agent BZ, used by the west.

Quote:“The clinical picture,” he added, showed that the nerve agent BZ had been used on the Skripals.

That's not a quote from the OPCW