2012 UEFA European Championship

(24-06-2012 23:33 )dan g 27 Wrote:  The difference between England and Italy tonight was Pirlo........

No mate, the difference between Italy and England were (a) Over 500 completed passes (around 850-320) (b) 35 efforts on goal to 4 and (c ) composure in the penalty shoot-out. The better team by a country mile won that game.

It was as one sided and embarrassing as the Spain v Ireland game without the goals to show it.

We should be happy,with this squad we massively overachieved in this tournament.

(25-06-2012 06:45 )LWilko82 Wrote:  I think England as a team needs to do what the Germans did and break the players up and start from scratch with young talent coz if you look at the under 21 squad they play with ten times more pride and give them 12 months and they'll be a strong cohesive unit not like the aging primadonnas in the current squad

that was i said in post #770 page 77.

(25-06-2012 07:15 )babelover48 Wrote:  

(24-06-2012 23:41 )shan_123 Wrote:  In reference to Pirlo- what was Milan thinking?- hearing the commentary apparently they thought he was past it

Pirlo would have been a revelation in the PL, though I suspect there would be very few clubs who could afford him.

in the past milan considered your past it when you hit 40 not 33. pirlo will either go to usa, middle east or russia for a one last big pay day. also seedorf has been released as well, two decent midfielders for free.

Pirlo could be great for the prem play in the hole and direct play with others doing the running bit like scholes does for united.

Shame but Italy deserved to go through simple as that

How does everyone rate the players then?

Hart 8 - Made many decent saves, pretty fautless bar the shootout
Johnson 6 - Either brilliant, or painfully awful, mostly the latter. Best player vs. Italy
Terry 8 - Best defender, make some great tackles, blocks, headers, interceptions etc. although got some of the basics wrong
Lescott 7 - Solid if unspectacular, opposite to JT
Cole 7 - Good, but didn't offer too much attack-wise
Milner 4 - Lacked quality in final third, but worked and had to babysit Johnson
Parker 5 - Looked well out of his depth, but showed great spirit
Gerrard 8 - Inconsistent in general play, but his brilliant crossing carried us from an attacking perspective
Young 4 - Biggest dissapointment, best England player over the last year or so, vs. Ukraine was his only half decent game
Walcott 6 - Best individual performance vs. Sweden, but not much else, although to be fair he didn't start any games
The Ox 6 - Good experience for the lad, great prospect
Rooney 4 - Not fit, Carroll should've started over him
Welbeck 7 - Done well, couldn't of asked for much more
Carroll 7 - A threat when he played

Hodgson 8 - Taking everything into context (time, injuries, JT/Rio situation, overall quality of the squad), he's done a very good job in my opinion.

(25-06-2012 07:15 )babelover48 Wrote:  Pirlo would have been a revelation in the PL, though I suspect there would be very few clubs who could afford him.

If Ancelotti stayed at Chelsea I guarentee we would've bought Pirlo

Can you believe this lad Paul Merson saying Pirlo is past it. Pirlo is not past it, for fuck sake, did this guy watch the match last night, did he watch Pirlo in the group stage. Pirlo was also one of the reasons Juventus had a great season last season, he is a brilliant player

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0...10,00.html

The penalty Pirlo scored last night, well he's tried it before and failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76M-rPqN16c

Heres the penalty he scored last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32MjK9B1bfE

(25-06-2012 16:53 )dan g 27 Wrote:  Can you believe this lad Paul Merson saying Pirlo is past it. For fuck sake, did this guy watch the match last night, did he watch Pirlo in the group stage. Pirlo was also one of the reasons Juventus had a great season last season, he is a brilliant player
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0...10,00.html

he is the player gerrard never quite could be

Even if we won that penalty shootout how would we have got on against the Germans? We looked absolutely shattered because we have to work so bloody hard chasing all night. The Germans rested Podolski, Muller and Gomez against Greece. They must have been praying for England to win.

(25-06-2012 17:12 )dan g 27 Wrote:  The penalty Pirlo scored last night, well he's tried it before and failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76M-rPqN16c

Heres the penalty he scored last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32MjK9B1bfE

So it's a good job that the England management had put together a dossier of all the penalties that the Italians had previously taken.
And Hart had even spent a few minutes before the shootout studying information charts and vids on an IPad.
This one had obviously been missed.