Olympics

(13-08-2012 15:32 )malicious fan Wrote:  

(13-08-2012 14:18 )seth Wrote:  

(13-08-2012 12:36 )kelly1066 Wrote:  to add to the sharron davies story above. it's correct, she recently again said she'd never gotten the mdeal she should have had. the girl flatly refused to hand it back, and the olympic peeps never persued her. we shoulda sent 'the boys' round to handle this..!!

In defence of the East German woman. Many East German athletes unknowingly took steroids. Were often tricked into thinking they were taking vitamin pills. They way she looks at it, she still trained hard for that medal and now possibly has health risks in the future, so maybe thinks she deserves her medal.

so all this time they thought they were taking vitamin pills! if you look at the medal table from 1968 thru to 1980 when the east germans went out on their own their medal tally was massive on their own compared to when they were a united germany! gold medals just shot up between that period even up till 1988 when east germany were still there they finished second in the medal table! every1 in the sporting world knew sumthin fishy was going off and im sure the athletes themselves thought this is not a MAGICAL vitamin pill im taking, wether they trained hard or not they were getting a major advantage and now when you look at the medal tables in olympics where are the united germany! fucking knowhere! the east geman athletes cheated and deep down they knew it and sum of those athletes are coming out now and saying they want sum of their records removed from the record books because of what was going on!

Yes some of them did admit to suspecting something was wrong and even challenged the doctors/trainers on what they were taking. You have to remember that many of those girls were very young, some only 14, 15 years old when they were first given these drugs and would be naive at such a young age. Many of them wouldn't have even known what a steroid was. There's a documentary on youtube where many of them talk about what happened, how they or their parents had no knowledge of the drugs and and they were threatened to be kicked out of the team if they ever challenged what they were taking. There are some example of East German athletes who did know, Marita Koch apparently complained that a rival competitor was getting higher doses of steroids then she was, but many didn't know what was happening.

(13-08-2012 17:03 )malicious fan Wrote:  how did she and most of the other east germans around at that time not fail drug tests!

Drug testing started in 1968 but was simple then and most athletes knew how to beat the tests. It was only from 1983 onwards that drug testing was more advanced and a lot of athletes got caught out.

(13-08-2012 18:09 )William H Bonney Wrote:  

(13-08-2012 17:03 )malicious fan Wrote:  how did she and most of the other east germans around at that time not fail drug tests!

Drug testing started in 1968 but was simple then and most athletes knew how to beat the tests. It was only from 1983 onwards that drug testing was more advanced and a lot of athletes got caught out.

so they cud still hav got caught in the 70's olympics and thru to the 80's where they were succesful! it makes you wonder how many other athletes from other countrys never got caught as well! but we all know it will never go away, it will always be around, sadly! every time sum1 does sumthing special now, us as the fans will probably always wonder, are they cheating? cos if im being honest when i see certain things being achieved i wonder "are they on sumthin", i wish i didnt feel like that but sumtimes i hav to question it

Due to the high number of requests to the BBC, the London 2012 Olympic Games Opening Ceremony will be repeated in full on BBC1 on 18 August at 13.00. (In the meantime you can watch it online at the BBC website).

(13-08-2012 18:24 )malicious fan Wrote:  so they cud still hav got caught in the 70's olympics and thru to the 80's where they were succesful!

Not many athletes failed tests in the 70s. The breakthrough came in the Pan-American games in 1983 when new techniques were used for the first time, resulting in 19 failed tests and other athletes withdrawing from competition to avoid being tested.

In a change of subject away from the drug accusations from Mr Lewis, I've put together an A-Z of my favourite GB moments during the Olympic fortnight:-

A is for Ben Ainslie: Claimed fourth olympic gold with victory in the Finn class sailing. Given the honour of carrying the UK flag in the closing ceremony. He warned his rivals - "you don't want to make me angry". I guess they didn't heed the warning. I personally hope he stays on and goes for number five in Rio in 2016, but likelihood is he'll call it a day now.

B is for brothers in arms Jonathan and Alistair Brownlee who got the British one and three in the triathlon.

C is for the "crying game" that so many of the athletes and pundits alike took part in. Nothing wrong with it at all. The spirit of a home games, the support of the home crowds, it's what makes the Olympics special. If you can't show emotion at the greatest show on earth, where the heck can you?

D is for Charlotte Dujardin: Star of the equestrian with two golds in individual and team dressage events.

E is for Jessica Ennis: Poster girl of the games. So much pressure on those slender shoulders - but by god did she deliver. Dominated the heptathlon from start to finish and ended up a worthy champion.

F is for Mo Farah: The star of two 'Super Saturday's'. Claimed gold in both the 5000 and 10000 metres and inspired team GB to big hauls of medals in the other events.

G is for Kath Grainger: Finally claimed her first gold medal after all those heartbreaking misses. Was among a strong group of British rowers at these games - we continue to rule the lake.

G is also for Gemma Gibbons: Claimed Britain's first judo medal for twelve years with silver in the women's 78kg catergory, including a victory over the world champion in the semi final. British judokas were kind of falling by the wayside - Gemma changed that.

H is for Chris Hoy: Carried GB flag in the opening ceremony, and proved himself a cycling God. Enough said.

H is also for the women's hockey team: Took the bronze and GB's first hockey medal for 20 years.

I is for the Interrupting Interviews that the BBC's presenters seemed to deliver often - creating some unintentional comic relief for viewers. Although the guests didn't look too happy about it.

J is for Anthony Joshua: The super heavyeight boxing class has been a happy hunting ground for GB athletes at previous games. It was here. Even sour grapes from the Italians couldn't deny the man from Finchley olympic gold.

K is for Jason Kenny: GB cycling's new hero. There is life after Chris Hoy.

L is for Jo Leedham: The star of GB women's basketball team. I instantly fell in love with this gorgeous blonde.

M is for Andy Murray: Finally the guy delivers in a major tennis final, totally wiping out Roger Federer 3 sets to nil. He even cracked a smile about it too.

N is for the nation getting behind the games and supporting the olympic movement to make it a show to remember.

O is for Christine Ohuruogu: So close yet so far in the 400 metres. A silver medal for the defending champion behind Sonya Richards Ross is no disgrace.

P is for Victoria Pendleton: Cycling's golden girl hangs up her wheels after another fabulous tournament, a truly glittering career.

Q is for "the Queen's" parachute jump in the opening ceremony.

R is for Greg Rutherford: GB gets a long jump medal! Another long time hoodoo is broken at the games that just kept on delivering. Along with Farah and Ennis, Rutherford was the other main star of that first super saturday in the athletics stadium.

S is for Louis Smith: Silver and bronze in gymnastics - its been a long time since GB could celebrate any success in this sport. Over a hundred years since the last Olympic medal.

T is for Laura Trott: Queen Victoria's replacement is already here - the youngster claimed golds and bagged herself a new fella in teammate Jason Kenny!

U is for the unbeliveable risk the athletes of all sports put themselves through in order to claim the prize. Win or lose, none of our athletes could be accused of not giving their all.

V is for volleyball: Always one of my favourite sports to watch at the Olympic Games. I was impressed with the GB women's team, claiming an historical first win ever in the olympics when they beat Algeria 3-2.

W is for Bradley Wiggins: What a year Wiggo's had - Tour de France champion and now Olympic champion - the best time trial / cycling sprinter in the world.

X is for the X-Factor provided by the opening and closing ceremonies and the atmosphere generated at all venues by competitors and spectators alike.

Y is for the armed forces and police saying yes when asked to step in to assist with the running of the games.

Z is for hoping that time zooms forward to 2016 in Rio - because after this extravaganza I can't wait for the next one. I lost a lot of interest during Beijing 2008 but London 2012 rekindled my enthusiasm for the Olympic Games.

(13-08-2012 18:38 )William H Bonney Wrote:  

(13-08-2012 18:24 )malicious fan Wrote:  so they cud still hav got caught in the 70's olympics and thru to the 80's where they were succesful!

Not many athletes failed tests in the 70s. The breakthrough came in the Pan-American games in 1983 when new techniques were used for the first time, resulting in 19 failed tests and other athletes withdrawing from competition to avoid being tested.

so soon as the new techniques came in alot of people didnt compete and retired! why are they still doing it today when they know they will get found out! they cant be doing it for the glory and 15 mins of fame cos the shot putter who failed a test only won the gold this past week so shes not gonna get any glory from it cos within a week shes failed a test and lost the gold medal! its a subject which will always remain and im sure alot more will fail tests in years to come!

(13-08-2012 17:32 )malicious fan Wrote:  .... maybe people around the world will start to think our cyclists must be doing sumthing illegal unless they already do think we are!

I can't remember if it was aimed at the cyclists or just the GB team in general, but I seem to remember the French press were up in arms about our gold rush and made several accusations of our athletes taking performance enhancing drugs during the Olympics.

(13-08-2012 19:45 )Money_Shot Wrote:  

(13-08-2012 17:32 )malicious fan Wrote:  .... maybe people around the world will start to think our cyclists must be doing sumthing illegal unless they already do think we are!

I can't remember if it was aimed at the cyclists or just the GB team in general, but I seem to remember the French press were up in arms about our gold rush and made several accusations of our athletes taking performance enhancing drugs during the Olympics.

I don't think the French press and French team director accused Britain cyclists of taking drugs. But they did accuse Britain of cheating in some way by using "magic wheels"

How ironic that some of the bikes are manufactured in france?? Cant even please them there EH??