Ofcom Discussion

I've just been doing some research and interestingly October 2006 was when Ed Richards become chief executive of ofcom. Within 2 months Babestar TV had it's licence revoked aswell as Sexstation TV and others at the time suddenly changing their output literally overnight. Out went the dildo's and full frontal nudity, in came the granny pants and the start of the tame, lame shows that we can all enjoy today. Coincidence or not - Oh how things could have been looking so much brighter for the babe channels if only Ed had got the top job at the BBC

(28-08-2012 17:35 )Scottishbloke Wrote:  Yes well good news and also bad news as it might just encourage the channels to continue with their lameduck shows. I'd like to think now that the heat is firmly off them now that they might just relax and start to put on some half decent shows again but the pessimist tells me that the tame shows will carry on.

We are now in the second part of 2012 and we are no further forward than we were at the start of the year. Eccles petition has now officially come to an end so let's hope that those who signed it have at least made some small difference into changing attitudes at ofcom HQ.

The latest Ofcom Bulletin can be found here - http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binarie...obb212.pdf

think your very very optimistic that the petition will have changed things at ofcom sb regarding the babeshows at all and as a result the shows will stay as they are, especially as theyre only getting the odd complaint here and there and most of those are getting thrown out.

think the shows will be as they are for a good while yet unless something drastic happens

One of the biggest difference's from the shows of the past to now is girl on girl interaction. did ofcom ban girls from kissing or have the channels stopped it themselves????

far as i know it's ofcom that's tightened things up with 241's, meaning now the babes cant do pretty much anything

Yes Rammy being optimistic is something you have to maintain because for as long as we have the channels and this type of entertainment then you still have a glimmer of hope, Playboy magazine is a perfect example of this how constant perseveres can eventually get you results. Back when that magazine started in the 50's they weren't allowed to publish any pictures showing full frontal nudity. Look at it now, it's stronger and bigger than ever.

Ofcom is an obstacle, a pretty big one but are not impossible to stand up to. The great thing about democracy as opposed to dictatorships is that barriers are easier to bring down than many people suspect. Eccles petition was a fantastic idea, it presented us with a stepping stone, change will happen but only if we all stay positive.

To simply accept the way things are should never ever be in the British mentality. Once a opon a time we were ruled by tyrannical Kings and Queen's before eventually gaining full democracy. If people back then simply gave up and accepted things for how they were then we would have got nowhere. Ofcom can and will be brought into line whether they like it or not.

Not to generalize, but from having lived in London for a while, many of the people I've met are quite adventurous when it comes to sex. I moved there with this assumption that most people would be a bit stand offish on sex, or very uptight about it, but what I got was the opposite, and this is from people of all backgrounds. Some of the "classiest" people I know, watch the babe channels, go to interesting events of a sexual nature that are catered to the "elite" etc. Also, when it comes to TV adverts, there is actual nudity in them, whereas in America there is not. There was even a meat commercial once where a piece of cooked meat was split into, showing pink color, and the voice over was of a man and woman moaning, going wild as they exclaimed how much they loved pink, all while moaning sexually. If you saw this in America, the ad would likely have been pulled from TV, with possible fines for whoever broadcast it.

I get a much more cheeky vibe in London than in anywhere I've been to in America.

When it comes to TV and movies, it seems as if violence is frowned upon, but nudity and sexuality less so in the U.K, which is the opposite of the U.S, to a certain extent.

These are just more reasons why I don't get the censorship on adult channels. If we can see bare asses in butter commercials and on morning shows, how in any way is a vagina going to harm anyone on an adult channel after the watershed????? Is Ofcom on crazy glue

Why have adult channels at all if a normal body part can't even be seen??? It makes Ofcom very hypocritical, since they allow more of this on non adult TV, even with mutilation at times if a show is showcasing fetishes. To me that's certainly far worse than a normal body part on clearly labled channels that can be blocked.

The teleshopping excuse makes little sense to me, because what teleshopping channels allow bare asses and breasts??? Not any I've heard of, so this must be some anti vagina paranoia from Ofcom, and a way for them to have too much power over these channels.

Lets get one thing clear if any one thinks that with Ofcom around that there going to soften up the rules and let the channels go back to how they were then you have another thing coming, yes some of the complaints are being thrown out but is this always gonna be the case unknown?, if Ofcom as Rammys said has toned down due to Ofcom meaning in his words that they pretty much can't do anything in a 241 does that mean that the 241's have been good as some people have posted if they not allowed do anything?

Well where do I begin, I guess I can start by saying that the state of our Adult channels are in dire straits at this moment in time, I no we can't look back, however I agree with SB that if the executives of the Adult channels would have to stood up to Ofcom years ago and nipped things in the bud then maybe things might of been different but hey who knows I've sent countless e mails to Ofcom complaining, and apart from one reply I've heard nothing back since hmmm no surprises there.
In my opinion Ofcom must be completely and utterly taken down and another regulator take over Now how difficult this will be to achieve I don't really no, but say a Dutch regulator wanted to regulate over British tv could that be a real possibility mmmh I don't no
I guess the thing that still amazes me that in the 21st century so called modern Britain that we're still having these debates I truly can't believe it, I'm truly lost for words. I agree with SB that we must remain positive there's no other way, i like all of you long for the day when ofcom is destroyed and taken down never to rise up again, let's hope this day comes sooner rather than later.

Ofcom it's all about control, they know deep down that this type of entertainment is harmless, they are just a shower of bastards who enjoy inflicting their own prejudices on other people. Harm and offence is bullshit and I also agree I've yet to see a teleshopping channel with topless people in it.

The truth of the matter is that their really is no distinction between the channels. Be it subscription based or FTA. What piss's me off most is that you don't have to be genious to work out that the rules set in place by ofcom are well over the top and grossly unfair. Whether the babe channel execs have ever challenged ofcom over their ruling remains to be seen but I'm pretty sure that ofcom's defence of it wouldn't hold up in a courtroom.

So they say they are protecting the children, well who in their right mind would have a child sitting up at 2am in the morning anyway, if your child is still sitting up at that time of the night I'd think what they'd be watching on the telly would be the least of your concerns.

What if the child decides to get up and smoke all of your fags and drink your booze dry too in the process whilst also stealing your bank card and cleaning out your money in the process. Where does the madness end before common sense takes over.

So we as a result of all these mad half cocked theories have to accept this lameduck watered down rat's piss as a result. What an insult to our intelligence.

Another thing im interested in is, why are the channels sticking to the no swearing on the mic policy, when ive been told that its legal after a certain time at night?.
You have only got to watch the 10min freeview of television x on freeview to see that its alowed. its full of swearing every single night!!!!!! This rule is self imposed by channels is my conclusion.