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if someone else was the manager/head coach at aresnal then they would have been sacked by more after going 8 years without a trophy after winning a trophy almost every season since he arrive.

(16-02-2013 21:21 )Stillroom Rock Wrote:  Blackpool are set to announce Paul Ince as their new manager on Monday

bet he dont hold on 2 his son!

(16-02-2013 22:52 )malicious fan Wrote:  

(16-02-2013 21:21 )Stillroom Rock Wrote:  Blackpool are set to announce Paul Ince as their new manager on Monday

bet he dont hold on 2 his son!

Thats the joke doing the rounds "he'd sell his own son if the price was right"

(16-02-2013 21:43 )bigguy01 Wrote:  if someone else was the manager/head coach at aresnal then they would have been sacked by more after going 8 years without a trophy after winning a trophy almost every season since he arrive.

Perhaps Wenger has his hands tied by the board. It seems that Arsenal tend to sell their best players on a regular basis. My guess is that paying for the Emirates stadium is behind this.
While there are obvious problems at the moment there are very few managers around that can regularly pluck so many youngsters from relative obscurity and turn them into great players.

(17-02-2013 08:34 )bytor Wrote:  Perhaps Wenger has his hands tied by the board. It seems that Arsenal tend to sell their best players on a regular basis. My guess is that paying for the Emirates stadium is behind this.

Let's take a quick look at Arsenal's accounts. Annual turnover £235m. Amount paid annually on stadium debt (paying for the Emirates) £20m. Compare that to the current wage bill of £143m and the cash in hand figure of £43m. Plus it's worth mentioning that the new bumper TV deal is coming in soon, which should push Arsenal's turnover to over £300m.

(17-02-2013 09:55 )William H Bonney Wrote:  

(17-02-2013 08:34 )bytor Wrote:  Perhaps Wenger has his hands tied by the board. It seems that Arsenal tend to sell their best players on a regular basis. My guess is that paying for the Emirates stadium is behind this.

Let's take a quick look at Arsenal's accounts. Annual turnover £235m. Amount paid annually on stadium debt (paying for the Emirates) £20m. Compare that to the current wage bill of £143m and the cash in hand figure of £43m. Plus it's worth mentioning that the new bumper TV deal is coming in soon, which should push Arsenal's turnover to over £300m.

OK then the Emirates is not at the root of the problem but the fact remains that Arsenal do seem to sell their big name players but seldom do they bring in named talent.

(17-02-2013 08:34 )bytor Wrote:  ...
While there are obvious problems at the moment there are very few managers around that can regularly pluck so many youngsters from relative obscurity and turn them into great players.

True to a certain extent, but if you look historically, there are a great many very promising youngsters from the Arsenal ranks that have failed to make it and ended in obscurity.
Remember just a few seasons ago they were regularly playing the reserves in the league cup games and beating other sides first teams. Where are those players now? Most have disappeared into obscurity. And where are the new crop of promising youngsters attempting to break into the team, and putting pressure on the incumbents?

Results like this demonstrate for me a lack of real leadership on the pitch. Wenger walked into a squad with leaders like Tony Adams, backed up by the likes of Martin Keown and others, people who would spill blood for the cause, and drive others to do the same. Then along came Patrick Viera who was in a similar mould. After that it all went to pot. Wenger's idea of leadership is to make the best player on the pitch captain, hence Henry and Fabregas getting the armband. That isn't the kind of leadership required when things get tough (especially in the premiership, more so than in other leagues), you need a fighter, a shouter, someone to rally the troops and push people on to give an extra effort, someone to raise heads when they start to drop. I don't see that in the last few seasons, and time and again it has cost games, particularly against what on paper are weaker sides, but sides prepared to scrap for 90 minutes.

Pretty, tippy-tappy football is all well and good, but it counts for nothing if you don't score the goals, sometimes you just have to dig deep and scrap, at both ends of the pitch. Wilshere seems to show the right sort of attitude, he seems to have the sort of desire to win every game at all costs, but with his age, and his history of injuries already, he can't be relied on too heavily, it needs someone else with experience to lead the side, a born leader, someone who will take the younger guys by the scruff of the neck and urge them on when things look bleak. Wilshere may be that man in a few seasons time, when he has more experience under his belt, but right now he needs to be allowed to just develop and play football, it needs someone else in my view.

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wonder if swansea will get fined for fielding a weak team . must have their eyes on cup final

^^^

That will be intresting to see as it happened to Blackpool a few seasons ago!

They were fined 25grand for making 10 changes against Aston Villa and beaten 3-2 and only lost to a last minute goal by James Collins and Ian Holloway almost resigned over it!!!