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(30-08-2014 20:30 )feetlover1 Wrote:  Killing them? Like him or hate him he's there biggest money maker lol

Man I hate Cena fans, either Virgins or 10 year olds did you order his new shirt yet? "lol"

(30-08-2014 19:17 )The Robot Devil Wrote:  

(26-08-2014 16:29 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote:  I think guys who work their way through Indy wrestling and go far to other countries to get to the WWE and work their ass off for everything like Bray Wyatt has and built up a character only to end up getting shit on by a talentless boring excuse of a wrestler who has had everything given to him in his career is a joke..

I love hate to be pedantic, but Wyatt didn't work for ANY independent wrestling companies before signing with WWE. He was fast tracked because of his family connections. So no Indy scene, no going abroad to Japan or Mexico etc, nothing. He's had it easy. Like Cena did. Annoying, but true.

What I meant by Bray is his building up of a character, I wasn't specifically saying he had been in all these indy wrestling and things, I just mentioned Bray because he clearly puts hours and time into his character and Promos really getting into the character and building it up.

Then you have a talentless guy like Cena who uses the same shit promo every week ass licking the crowd when the majority of crowds can't stand him, for example somebody will shout in the crowd;

"Cena You're Shit"

Then he will just say something like "we'll I see the Universe is lively tonight, we've had good times, we've had some bad times together but I love being here and I will beat the bad guys for you"

The guys a joke, and then when somebody does a really good promo he kills it with his ridiculous thing he does where he starts doing dumb jokes and doesn't take it serious...

heres an example of him just no selling promos..




And here is what the majority crowds think of him, just a shame most of it gets edited out on TV..



As for him holding the WWE together, he's killing them from an entertainment and wrestling point of view, only reason he's still there is because he sells a new colorful T shirt to the kiddies every month.

I agree about the content of the majority of Cena's promos. It's all the more galling because he has shown many times down the years that he can actually cut one hell of a good promo when he wants. Given his level of stroke backstage the only possible conclusion you can draw is that he chooses to cut those childish, immature promos.

EDIT: Also, I have to say, in all honesty, during that last vid you put up featuring the hostile crowds, I thought the hypocrisy of those ECW fans was laughable. Rob Van Dam's been doing the 'same old shit' for almost 15 years ! I guess irony is lost on those ECW 'smart' marks.

(30-08-2014 20:42 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote:  

(30-08-2014 20:30 )feetlover1 Wrote:  Killing them? Like him or hate him he's there biggest money maker lol

Man I hate Cena fans, either Virgins or 10 year olds did you order his new shirt yet? "lol"

well i ain't no virgin, ask your mother

now i wait for this comment to be removed, seems to happen all the time

(30-08-2014 21:17 )The Robot Devil Wrote:  I agree about the content of the majority of Cena's promos. It's all the more galling because he has shown many times down the years that he can actually cut one hell of a good promo when he wants. Given his level of stroke backstage the only possible conclusion you can draw is that he chooses to cut those childish, immature promos.

EDIT: Also, I have to say, in all honesty, during that last vid you put up featuring the hostile crowds, I thought the hypocrisy of those ECW fans was laughable. Rob Van Dam's been doing the 'same old shit' for almost 15 years ! I guess irony is lost on those ECW 'smart' marks.

When you consider Cena is supposed to be the good guy, the hero, the main face of the company and the majority of the time the whole arena is shouting "cena sucks" "we all hate you" "same old shit" "you cant wrestle"

I think its time to either move on or have a character rethink..

And the thing is RVD is 1 hell of a great wrestler, one of the most athletic talented wrestlers I have ever seen, yes he is old now and not as he was but he has always put on great matches and taken big risks. Cena can't even tie RVD's boots when it comes down to pure wrestling ability and putting on entertaining matches. RVD has never been made to look like some kind of super human and doesn't mind loosing clean. Cena on the other hand he literally can't wrestle, he has like 4 moves max, he's not athletic, Top heavy, he cant sell moves without looking like a dick, and his pandering to the crowd when he's on the apron in tag matches is shocking..

The easy thing to say is, I can't stand the f***ing guy! As a wrestler he's just shit, not entertaining, boring and from what I have seen of him outside of wrestling he's just a boring person in general. And what pisses me off the most is the way he uses sick children to try and get people to like him, by all means yes do charity work but there is no need to film it and use it to try and force people to like him. I'ts the same with the troops thing..

Cena is Vince's idea of a good guy. Reigns is headed the same way. Realism, ability... these things are not factors Vince is swayed by.

The Network is a commercial concern, sold by a company whose idea of commerciality is giving the people what the boss wants. That's doomed, in the long term.

I'm kind of hoping they go bust, vince is running it to the ground, he is so out of touch with modern times and what people want.

The number of lawsuits from Network customers ought to ring a few bells, but I doubt it will change their behaviour much.

(31-08-2014 22:59 )Fernandez Esperenda Wrote:  I'm kind of hoping they go bust, vince is running it to the ground, he is so out of touch with modern times and what people want.

when was the last time Vince was on raw?

Ages ago, I didn't mean vince on screen was running it into the ground but he is still the owner, he has final say on creative and who does what and decides everything, he gives the "ok" to push on with Adam Rose & Los Matadores and Hornswoggle and make Cena superhuman and it was him who wanted a network.

Check out the losses they have made over the last year.. it's not looking good for them, the network is going to be a massive flop, I hope it ends them.