Tumble_Drier
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RE: Formula 1
(07-10-2014 08:07 )The Silent Majority Wrote: 60kph wouldn't be nearly slow enough for that sort of impact. The rear 'bumper' on the machine, where the car hit, is a solid counter-weight for the lifting boom on the front. It could easily weigh 2 tonnes on its own.
To my mind, it was a very bad call by the marshals to put that recovery vehicle out there at all, in those conditions, in direct line of fire, on a corner where one car had already aquaplaned off. Once Sutil was safe his car should have been left there and Bianchi would probably have walked away from his crash, even if he hit Sutils car instead of the tyres.
This is point where the accident happened. Post 12 is where you could see the Marshal correctly waving Double Yellows, then changing to Green when the Snatch Vehicle was clear of his post when recovering Suti's car.
It's worth noting that if you watch the broadcast footage, Bianchi's car is in front of Sutil when the Sauber goes into the barriers so there was almost 2 minutes before Bianchi arrived at that spot again...In those conditions, the Safety Car should have been deployed immediately.
Some reports suggest that Bianchi's car skipped over the gravel trap on the right as it went in. At 60 kph he would have been beached long before he got anywhere near Sutil's car. Even if the gravel wasn't there the car would have been slowed enough to regain some grip and avoid the accident. He was driving on Worn Intermediates at the time...
As for the Marshals, they didn't make any sort of call to deploy the Snatch Vehicle. That call comes only from the Race Director, Charlie Whiting. Leaving a crashed car in situ is not something that is done often and only in circumstances where it would be very unlikely for another car to go off there.
I'll be very surprised if the FIA don't introduce a version of Code 60, possibly implemented via the Pit Lane Speed Limiter. A lot of very well informed people are already calling for it and it was mentioned immediately after the crash by Martin Brundle who had a very similar accident there in 1994, with a Marshal suffering a broken leg.
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(This post was last modified: 08-10-2014 19:46 by Tumble_Drier.)
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The Silent Majority
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RE: Formula 1
(08-10-2014 19:33 )Tumble_Drier Wrote: As for the Marshals, they didn't make any sort of call to deploy the Snatch Vehicle. That call comes only from the Race Director, Charlie Whiting. Leaving a crashed car in situ is not something that is done often and only in circumstances where it would be very unlikely for another car to go off there.
I still think it was a bad call in those circumstances, whoever made it. But you're right, they were traveling too fast under the safety car.
The problem with a standard 60k limit under the safety car is, F1 cars aren't designed to travel that slow for any length of time and I suspect overheating could be a problem. Yes, extending the pit-lane limiter technology to the rest of the track could be the answer, though, if it was under Charlie Whiting's control, to be used at his discretion.
They really do need to take a look at how the cars are recovered as well, though. For instance, telescopic boom machines are readily available that could have reached over the barrier and picked Sutil's car up without ever being on the track.
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