General Election Vote

Interesting to see that warfare is starting to break out already within Labour. Ken Livingstone has said they should be more left wing i.e. not return to Blairite days. Blair got them elected 3 times though and when did they last get elected with real left wing policies. I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers the Michael Foot manifesto which became know as the longest suicide note in history.

(09-05-2015 10:33 )gunnar Wrote:  The Tories have 331 seats, which gives them a slim majority of 6.

Your arithmetic's badly wrong. No way is it 6.

650 seats less 331 Conservative seats equals 319, giving a Conservative majority of 12.

Deduct the Speaker who does not vote except to resolve ties and also deduct 4 Sinn Féin MPs who don't recognise the sovereignty of Westminster and that increases the majority to 17.

The Conservatives can also rely on their Ulster Unionist party alliance which gives them another certain 2 votes, making the final count 333 Conservative seats and 312 for the opposition, a working majority of 21.

(09-05-2015 11:14 )tony confederate Wrote:  

(09-05-2015 10:33 )gunnar Wrote:  The Tories have 331 seats, which gives them a slim majority of 6.

Your arithmetic's badly wrong. No way is it 6.

650 seats less 331 Conservative seats equals 319, giving a Conservative majority of 12.

Deduct the Speaker who does not vote except to resolve ties and also deduct 4 Sinn Féin MPs who don't recognise the sovereignty of Westminster and that increases the majority to 17.

The Conservatives can also rely on their Ulster Unionist party alliance which gives them another certain 2 votes, making the final count 333 Conservative seats and 312 for the opposition, a working majority of 21.

What if the UU don't support the Conservatives and sides with Labour?
would that make the chances of opposition vote wins much better? And don't forget there are possible rebellions from backbenchers on certain votes too....

(09-05-2015 10:42 )Charlemagne Wrote:  ^And don't forget the speaker and his assistants don't vote

It's only the Speaker who doesn't vote (except to resolve a tie). The Speaker's assistants are free to vote.

There will be no backbench rebellion, they will moan but vote as the whips tell them too. They are politicians saying one thing but doing another.

(09-05-2015 11:16 )gunnar Wrote:  ^There are 650 seats
Half of that amount is 325
Tories got 331 seats
So 6 majority

331 seats against 319 is a majority of 12 not 6.

(09-05-2015 10:39 )terence Wrote:  and the shinners are giving their 4 seats to nobody!

Big year for gay rights in Ireland; they need to get with the times!

(09-05-2015 10:39 )terence Wrote:  they (the tories) can also count on 10 votes from the unionists over here, maybe 11 if you count the unionist independent silva hermon.

Sylvia Hermon is likely to vote with Labour (according to The Guardian anyway).

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010...rs-outcome

See Malcom Rifkind waited till after the election to deliver his words of wisdom. Have actually spoken to him in person, and yes he is the nasty greedy little shit everyone thinks he is. Scots threw him out of Edinburgh Pentlands, after he took the money to stab Scotland in the back. Now in London screwing every penny he can out of the country. The SNP didnt let the tories win, it was Cameron and co installing fear of Labour and SNP coalition that won them this election. Moneymen 1 Public 0.

Last nights Dead Ringers radio show http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05sycdj

Worth a listen, if you haven't heard it