Babeshows - General Chat & Discussion

(17-06-2015 22:34 )Liverred Wrote:  Does anyone know if these channels have any properly trained cameramen or even cameramen at all? If they have and they are being paid then what do they do to earn their money? They seem to do very little these days with pov sessions being very rare and close ups once per hour if you are lucky. Sophia Lares' show on Monday night was a prime example of this. A STUNNING WOMAN with everything any red blooded man ( or woman ) could possibly want IE great looks, huge tits, fit body, great ass, shapely thighs but in the whole shift how many close ups of her were there? I really miss Bluebird, a channel that suffered considerable criticism on this forum but top class at pov/close ups.

(17-06-2015 06:44 )babelover48 Wrote:  ^I doubt even if OFCOM now did a u - turn and said "We've classified the babe channels wrong let's make them proper 18+ adult channels after all" I don't think that would even improve the situation the channels are in now.
But when you see more and more webcam site springing up that the babes would probably sign up to, I would wonder if that is how we will only see the babes in future, once the shows are consigned to the archives of telly history, yet it would be great if the UK babes signed up to a UK based webcam site that doesn't have payment links to a overseas company would be good too. Whether we all see the Webcam thing as a light at the end of the tunnel for seeing babes is another matter.
But if this was to happen I fear it wouldn't take OFCOM very long to start clamping down on the contents of these sites (wouldn't be surprised if it was happening even now as I write this), and then we would be back to square one in our never ending battle.

Ofcom might clamp down, but there has always been a small gap between public policy statements for the press and reality, with loopholes for those in the know.

Even when Maggie Thatcher was at her height there were private cinema clubs that showed content that would not be allowed even a R18 certificate today. Newsagents and local newspapers openly carried ads for dodgy massage services. Camera clubs sometimes had special evenings. Swingers clubs seem to be legal now, even with paid events. Lapdancing clubs might be heavily regulated, but most operate 7 days a week for 12+ hours, meaning more openly advertised, licenced, legal stripping than ever before. Ofcom has not banned a single European hardcore satellite channel in its entire existence, despite these being advertised in UK magazines and having the power to do so where a channel is aimed at the UK on moral grounds - EU rules allow this.

Cam sites and hardcore clips on the web are just one aspect of this unstated policy of allowing porn for those who try hard enough.

No government is capable of or wants to clamp down totally. Some of their own members are "gentlemen with refined tastes". So are some of their supporters and financial backers. Not many, but enough. If they have their wits about them and accept impartial advice, they will know that clamping down only creates a dangerous pressure cooker situation.

Another factor might be foreign businesses, or rather, businesses that can be run anywhere. Bankers might or might not pay tax, but they contribute a lot to the UK economy. London is supposed to be chocca with high value high tech businesses. Remove the goodies, stop them having fun at the end of a long day, and a few influential people might decide to relocate to France, Italy, Spain, the USA or the Far East. Do it right and tax would be less and big houses in nice areas would be far more affordable.

We could end up with a situation where there is token regulation, big name sites registering with UK regulators and abiding by UK rules, but widely known and quietly tolerated alternatives.

The trouble is as soon as sites require payment, that becomes a significant amount, and a lot of people are reluctant to give their name, address, date of birth and bank card details to a pornographer, or a gateway site working with them. The whole payment and/or registration thing reduces the number of participants by at least a factor of ten, contributing to the pressure cooker effect.

Porn services will continue to be available one way or another, but they might be for the few, not the many.

Thats probably my last post for a while, I feel I have been going in circles for a long time, saying pretty much the same, preaching to the converted, and responding to forum members instead of a regulator that shall remain nameless. It feels a bit like trying to punch fog, there are no new proposals to argue against and no way of communicating with, let along convincing, opinion makers outside this forum. The election was one huge disappointment, despite Leveson, no campaigning body, party or newspaper was even remotely interested in the arbitrary exercise of censorship powers, religious driven censorship, systematic bias towards some broadcasters and against others, or the role of personal tastes of a few people in deciding what an entire nation (4 nations?) can and cannot watch. I might be back from time to time, but for now I am packing up my rod and heading for Lake Wobegon.

I hope my point of view is seen as a valid point of view though I will admit it may not be one shared by many others and that's fair enough, Yet I have often wondered if we are anything near like what George Orwell's 1984 is like but I'm guessing that we are way off that.

(18-06-2015 04:07 )babelover48 Wrote:  I hope my point of view is seen as a valid point of view though I will admit it may not be one shared by many others and that's fair enough, Yet I have often wondered if we are anything near like what George Orwell's 1984 is like but I'm guessing that we are way off that.

Many key features of Orwell's dystopian vision has been realised: mass surveillance, over-regulation, political correctness = thoughtspeak, government believing it knows best for its people, endless wars against unseen, asymmetrical ememies...

What I find interesting is that while religious censorship, prudery and disapproval has generally been in retreat, it has simply been replaced and indeed strengthened by it's secular equivalents of political correctness and the ascendancy of the more extreme sections of the womens' equality movement. The High Priests and Priestesses of this Secular Sexual Prohibition are the likes of Harriet Harman for example.

Did anyone see last night, where preeti was nude and the producers must of said something to her about it, she replied back something along the lines of "you cant see it" but eventually she relented and put her thingy back on.

Still nice to see a girl willing to step up with the nudity.

Good girl preeti.

Watching tonight it just makes me wonder whether the channels are deliberately trying to find every method possible to make the shows as dire as possible .
If so they are doing a grand job of it .

(18-06-2015 23:13 )snookered147 Wrote:  SNIP

If so they are doing a grand job of it .

See, you can be positive, after all!

Allow me to praise uselessness

(18-06-2015 23:34 )snookered147 Wrote:  Allow me to praise uselessness

There's fuck all else to praise, so why not!?

(though, to be fair, I'm rather liking Kandi Kay, tonight!)