Babeshows - General Chat & Discussion

(24-06-2015 23:46 )BigBen Wrote:  ...clearly the mass market is no longer there. ...

... years gone by, aspiring models would kill to get onto a babeshow. They could pick and choose from an array of any one who thought they could be a model. Right now, aspiring models can make just as much from their own home on a cam site, working to a schedule that suits them with no producer or boss directing their actions....

Ultimately I don't see a way for the downward trend to cease, unless regulation is relaxed and then with their tv exposure the channels could compete on a more level playing field... right now the babeshows simply do not represent any sort of value.

Indeed, some very good points from BigBen.

To play devil's advocate a little though: I might even question a revival on the terms you propose. Is the mass market just not there for the current babeshow output or is it no longer there at all?

I now begin to wonder about the shows' prospects even if Ofcom's restrictions were removed. Is the potential audience even still out there in the way it was in the shows' prime? The world has indeed moved on. We are no longer of the lad mag culture. It may be difficult to convince masses of the new generation to blow their £30 or £50 on a TV call no matter what the girl is up to onscreen. The form may just be seen as a little passé now.

And one thing is for certain, taking Ofcom rules away will not return the vitality, exuberance and quality to the babe line-up all on it's own. Only one thing will bring in better quality, more hungry, girls. Ones who are prepared to put in a proper shift every time and really compete to earn more than the next girl. Only the prospect of making a shit load of money in a buzzing, vibrant, and thoroughly revitalised, industry will do that.

In other words, the callers will have to return first. And lots of them. Are we really sure that they would indeed come back in the volumes of five years ago even if Ofcom were singing a different tune?

You are, of course, correct that there is a market (and a thriving one) for webcam girls online. But does that really translate into freeview and Sky viewers if TV moved closer to those content levels?

The range of babes and the full interactivity on offer can not be aped atm on TV for instance and, more importantly the volumes of punters needed for an individual cam show online to be a success is, of course, dwarfed by the amount required to do the same on TV. Webcamming online will always be a niche (albeit a larger one in a larger pond) in the same way as babe shows have always been on TV. Both pass by a majority of the life-blood casual viewer/surfer and always will. Their fortunes are indeed heading in different directions though as you say. I'm just not 100% sure the babe shows' decline is in fact reversible.

Don't get me wrong, I hope the above musings are entirely too negative and will live to be proved wrong, but, regrettably, more and more these days it seems to me to be a distinct possibility.

(24-06-2015 22:51 )zerowow Wrote:  I don't really buy the lack of motivation argument...

Do you think the majority of the current crop of dayshow babes would be happy to see the current rules abolished and the old audience return (if it would as you imply)?

I think the majority of girls would depart quicker than you can say Jack Robinson at any sign of a change in the current tone of shows. It's nothing to do with them conserving "resources". They simply wouldn't want to work any other way.

(25-06-2015 18:15 )ShandyHand Wrote:  

(24-06-2015 22:51 )zerowow Wrote:  I don't really buy the lack of motivation argument...

Do you think the majority of the current crop of dayshow babes would be happy to see the current rules abolished and the old audience return (if it would as you imply)?

I think the majority of girls would depart quicker than you can say Jack Robinson at any sign of a change in the current tone of shows. It's nothing to do with them conserving "resources". They simply wouldn't want to work any other way.

No... I'd hope the majority would depart quicker than I could say Jack Robinson. The current line-up reflects the current audience, is my argument. Change the rules, and the audience changes; so the line-up (or their performance, those who wished to remain) would follow suit in order to maximise the potential revenue.

The current lot or their performances would be ill-matched to the new audience. Economics would see them either adapt or be moved on.

(25-06-2015 17:38 )Bandwagon Wrote:  the 5 min flick through.....

The Five Minute Flick Through (FMFT)

Such a perfect description of my own babeshow viewing habits that it deserves its own jargonny acronym.

Things that might make me pause on my FMFT:

- A Gemma Hiles tease hour (sometimes)
- Sophie Hart if she is looking frisky
- Jenna Hoskins in the right outfit
- Lucy Zara sans outfit
- The occasional dayshow stint by Hannah Claydon (but that is purely for scientific curiosity in the geometric perfection of her boobs)
- Lola Lawson (because I still think she digs me!)

Other than that, frankly, I am getting change out my five minutes! (Saving a lot of money too that I used to waste on calls)

(25-06-2015 20:32 )zerowow Wrote:  No... I'd hope the majority would depart quicker than I could say Jack Robinson. The current line-up reflects the current audience, is my argument. Change the rules, and the audience changes; so the line-up (or their performance, those who wished to remain) would follow suit in order to maximise the potential revenue.

The current lot or their performances would be ill-matched to the new audience. Economics would see them either adapt or be moved on.

^ Here we are on the same page then. I have said much the same bemoaning the current audience for dictating attitudes presented on the shows in previous posts.

But you are right that "lack of motivation" is a poor term for what you describe re. the current day girls' approach.

The motivation argument is perhaps better levelled at a number of night girls and should be limited to such.

Yeah I understand the lack of motivation argument. I've just never seen it as cause of these shows' woes, but effect.

On the flip side there are the highly motivated girls, the permanent fixtures, the 'unassailables' I like to call them, who are doing just dandy under the present rules; at the coal-face at the crack of dawn feigning interest (to repeat myself, but it has such a delicious ring to it) in the lives of their callers, month in, month out.

The #winners

Is this the only industry/service where some consumers complain the product is irretrievably shit because some of the other customers are selfishly and stupidly still inexplicably buying it and so are stopping the producers of the product from making a better product ? (assuming they even wanted to)

- Cinema audiences - stop going to see all these endless by-the-numbers crash-bang-wallop superhero/comic/toy merchandising tie-in sequels and remakes, I think they're all shite and they stop film studios having to make any interesting original new films.
- TV audiences - stop watching soaps for God's sake, I think they're all clichéd and dreadful and badly acted and fill up primetime schedules night after night with depressing mindless pap.

If only the vast majority of people weren't so selfishly enjoying all these things, I wouldn't have to put up with that crap and there'd magically be much better things to watch.

Quite right too.
I agree .

(25-06-2015 21:45 )M-L-L Wrote:   Is this the only industry/service where some consumers complain the product is irretrievably shit because some of the other customers are selfishly and stupidly still inexplicably buying it and so are stopping the producers of the product from making a better product ? (assuming they even wanted to)

No, but I think it's the only industry where the discussion about the product it is almost more interesting than the product itself.

Most of the discussion, that is

(25-06-2015 22:01 )zerowow Wrote:  

(25-06-2015 21:45 )M-L-L Wrote:   Is this the only industry/service where some consumers complain the product is irretrievably shit because some of the other customers are selfishly and stupidly still inexplicably buying it and so are stopping the producers of the product from making a better product ? (assuming they even wanted to)

No, but I think it's the only industry where the discussion about the product it is almost more interesting than the product itself.

Most of the discussion, that is

Lets be honest, it's all of the discussion... I've seen more chat about how poor the Babeshows are these days than i have posts about the babes themselves, and it's all bloody well true what people are saying

It is at the point now where I feel I should be being paid £1.53 per minute just for watching it all .