Top Gear

Not entirely sure why all the hating on Chris Evans. I use to listen to both his radio show and TFI back in the 90's and they were great, he's brilliant live.

^ OK. I don't know the guy obviously. But to all apperances he is an egotistical man-child who surrounds himself with sycophants and self-publicity in order to make a career out of a one-note talent... A savvy opportunist mascurading as a creative. What's not to love?

The old TG team had their faults but Evans is completely emperor's new clothes to me YMMV.

Evans isn't a journalist, let alone a motoring journalist. He's an outstanding self-publicist and supposed ratings magnet.

I suppose many of those in the BBC and outside who thought that TG was a cinch to put together are learning just... how hard it can be

BUT, exceptionally good at what it does. Who cares if he is egotistical? to me everybody in the public eye are, 'look at me and what I can do'. And he does know a thing or two about cars, plus I'm guessing he will have technical writers feeding him.

Maybe it's because i'm his generation.

Top gear has been going years, those three presenters are relatively new. Clarkson was the lynch pin.

^ I agree with you there - it could be generational. Inspired by such media darlings, humility has become so 1970s.

TG was in it's death throws as a show before Clarkson.

thing is the Evans is Clarksons generation so he is a middle aged man dicking about

its the bbc's fault u got a good programme creator who did it all in commercial tv as well so knows how to make shows that are commercial sucess's and then they try to micro manage its like

i can see within a couple of years when top gear bombs that they will sell the names right to Amazon

i bet clarkson already helped amazon make money with all the amazon firesticks sold cos of that ad

(03-01-2016 15:46 )wackawoo Wrote:  Who cares if he is egotistical? to me everybody in the public eye are, 'look at me and what I can do'.

Yes, and it's not acceptable from them either. I mean, he's better than, say, Paddy McGuinness or Leigh Francis.

Quote:Maybe it's because i'm his generation.

I'm 38 - is this Play Your Cards Right all of a sudden? I listened to his now-forgotten Sunday afternoon R1 show in late 1991, you know

You got it in for me you have.

(03-01-2016 21:42 )Doddle Wrote:  I mean, he's better than, say, Paddy McGuinness or Leigh Francis.

Yes, at what he does. But they are much better at what they do, in fact Leigh Frances is amazingly creative.

Quote:I'm 38 - is this Play Your Cards Right all of a sudden? I listened to his now-forgotten Sunday afternoon R1 show in late 1991, you know

Nothing in this game for a pair!! got me everytime

I remember the Breakfast show when getting up and driving to uni. People have their slot, look at marc and lard, great at night piss poor at breakfast.

He may be crap, who know's he might be great.

Top gear began in 1977 captain slow joined as a regular in 2003, Hamster in 2002, clarkson in 1988. In it's nearly 40 years, baring a breif hiatus, they have only been there 12/13 years or so. Nobody is argueing they weren't the best and will probbaly always be the best at it but the program CAN exist with out them You need to remember for all those liking the pranking and larking about (which lets face it had become lame and predictable) there were just has many who didn't like it and didn't like cars being reviewed that were vasty out of anybodys price range.

It had become a very good laddish program with three very privaledge people being paid vast amounts of money to basically lark about.

Having read these post and thought about it, I think it was time for a change, reign it in abit, if it fails sobeit cancel it for good, it's had a good run and there will be all those repeats on Dave.

I might give fith gear a look, at least that has butler-henderson in.

(04-01-2016 01:05 )wackawoo Wrote:  You got it in for me you have.

Nah, it's a lesson in coincidence

Quote:He may be crap, who know's he might be great.

True.

Quote: In it's nearly 40 years, baring a breif hiatus, they have only been there 12/13 years or so.

The post-2002 version was only vaguely similar to the pre-2002 version. Much as the post-2005 version of Doctor Who bears only superficial similarity to the pre-2005 version, to choose a comparison I know you'll get

My view is that the Hammond jet-crash was their "jump the shark" moment, turning a decent BBC2 series into Front Page News. All the troubles they had came after that point, and since the 2015 series was full of rehashes and weaker material, they'd all passed the point of no return anyway.

Hell, if Evans makes it work, then fair play to him (and the production team).

^Personally, for me, I can never get past the unlikability factor of Chris Evans.