Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(25-06-2016 13:01 )SecretAgent Wrote:  There are lots of figures flying around about the age profile of voters. I think I'm right in saying these are all extrapolations or pre or maybe post vote surveys and should therefore be treated with caution.

these figures came from a yougov poll posted on the night

I think the biggest casualty of Brexit will be the Eurovision song contest. Nil poi for us methinks.

^ We haven't been doing that well in the Eurovision anyway for some time so I doubt it would make much difference.

(25-06-2016 12:50 )HannahsPet Wrote:  and the old were not scaremongered by the Papers saying millions of immigrants coming in taking jobs. the number of times on the tv i heard old people saying we need to stop them coming in taking the jobs and the services

Or in a few years time when u need a visa to get into Ibiza to party there will be rioting in the streets

Old people have been around a long time, there were around in the time of windrush and foreign nurses being recruited into the NHS and also they lived most of their young lives out side the EU.

One, they probbaly by now know when people are bull shitting them, it was NEVER about immigration it was all about the AMOUNT of imigrants all at once, the rush to get here. UK has had imigraion throughout it's history, it's a mongral nation, it's one of it's greatest qualities, it's the reason the UK has much less REAL racism than other countries, and I don't like how it's being twisted into the UK is rasict thing. Occasioanlly you have large amounts all at once, such as the wind rush, 50,000 from zimbabwe, a lot from india, but these are one off peaks and then everything settles, with the EU people from poorer countries could live in the UK, there was nothing to stop it at all and it was PERMINANT.

Two, if being out of the EU is so bad, how comes old people who have live out of the EU, in post war austerity think it is better to be out than in? If a person is 80, they have live 50% of their lives out of EU and 50% in yet vote to leave; as opposed to 18 year olds who have never known what it is like to be out; even I don't and I was born when the UK was out of the EU.

Being out is more about the fear of the unknown and and the uncertianty and this will be felt more by young people than old, it's not suprising that most choose what they know.

(25-06-2016 10:24 )SecretAgent Wrote:  I don't like the result but we should respect it.

That's very harsh and unfeeling.

Everyone deserves a second chance in life. Let those who voted for Farage have another chance.

(25-06-2016 13:41 )Tractor boy Wrote:  I think the biggest casualty of Brexit will be the Eurovision song contest. Nil poi for us methinks.

I don't see why. A chunk of our votes last time came from Russia and Australia.

(25-06-2016 13:57 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(25-06-2016 12:50 )HannahsPet Wrote:  and the old were not scaremongered by the Papers saying millions of immigrants coming in taking jobs. the number of times on the tv i heard old people saying we need to stop them coming in taking the jobs and the services

Or in a few years time when u need a visa to get into Ibiza to party there will be rioting in the streets

Old people have been around a long time, there were around in the time of windrush and foreign nurses being recruited into the NHS and also they lived most of their young lives out side the EU.

One, they probbaly by now know when people are bull shitting them, it was NEVER about immigration it was all about the AMOUNT of imigrants all at once, the rush to get here. UK has had imigraion throughout it's history, it's a mongral nation, it's one of it's greatest qualities, it's the reason the UK has much less REAL racism than other countries, and I don't like how it's being twisted into the UK is rasict thing. Occasioanlly you have large amounts all at once, such as the wind rush, 50,000 from zimbabwe, a lot from india, but these are one off peaks and then everything settles, with the EU people from poorer countries could live in the UK, there was nothing to stop it at all and it was PERMINANT.

Two, if being out of the EU is so bad, how comes old people who have live out of the EU, in post war austerity think it is better to be out than in? If a person is 80, they have live 50% of their lives out of EU and 50% in yet vote to leave; as opposed to 18 year olds who have never known what it is like to be out; even I don't and I was born when the UK was out of the EU.

Being out is more about the fear of the unknown and and the uncertianty and this will be felt more by young people than old, it's not suprising that most choose what they know.

Hmmmm maybe the older people hark back to the old days like the 60's and 70's with rose tinted specs i know i do of the late 80's and 90's when i was a youth even though were pretty shitty times in lancashire under thatcher and torys.

the 60's and 70's looked like a great times but would we go back to the policys and finances like devaluation and the 3 day week

I really don't know why anybody would take any notice of the pollsters, they have got the last two major elections badly wrong, they predicted a coalition or labour win at the general election and gave the remain camp a 10 point lead the day before the euro election. I live in Birmingham where we have one of the largest immigrant populations in the country, a mixture of young and old, black and white, male and female, a city of 700,000 people yet the vote was virtually 50/50 ( the leave camp ahead by about 3000 ). If you believe what the so called experts are saying, it was youngsters who voted to remain and the pensioners who voted out. Just because the BBC produce a few students who cry and say their futures are ruined it does not mean they represent the entire young generation.

(25-06-2016 14:09 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Hmmmm maybe the older people hark back to the old days like the 60's and 70's with rose tinted specs i know i do of the late 80's and 90's when i was a youth even though were pretty shitty times in lancashire under thatcher and torys.

the 60's and 70's looked like a great times but would we go back to the policys and finances like devaluation and the 3 day week

Doubtfull, speak to any old people and they tend to speak more about how much they didn't have. Carniby street only happened in a small area of swinging london, the rest of the country wasn't like that (music was one of the few things people had); and nobody looks back to the 70's with rose tinted glasses, i know i don't and i was a kid then.

Do you honestly think Leave hadnt won they would be going quiet we would never hear the end of it.

Keyboard warriors of both sides should shut the fuck up.

Think will take a few weeks and people will get on with it Proberly when Chilcott report is released