Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(28-06-2016 06:48 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  Another thing that's really starting to annoy me is the ever increasing use of the term 'Brexiteer'

It makes them sound a bit heroic, like Musketeers. There are no fucking heroes here, on either side.

That I would agree with

fucking farage going to do a speech in EU parlimant what the fuck could possibly go wrong

The only way I can explain the Boris U-turn is that he didn't ever think that Leave would win. Now that it has won he's stuck with a gigantic mess and feels the only way out is to back down on all his promises.

At the Parliamentary Labour Party meeting last night Alan Johnson who led the Labour campaign accused Corbyn of failing to attend the Labour Leave weekly meetings, refusing to talk to him & undermining the Labour Leave campaign messages. Corbyn also refused to say if he had voted Remain.

(28-06-2016 08:49 )elgar1uk Wrote:  The only way I can explain the Boris U-turn is that he didn't ever think that Leave would win. Now that it has won he's stuck with a gigantic mess and feels the only way out is to back down on all his promises.

Leave have been backtracking on their promises within hours of the result being announced, especially on their 2 key promises on the NHS & Immigration

So are we at the point where we are actually thinking the referendum was a bad thing in the first place?

(28-06-2016 09:23 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  

(28-06-2016 08:49 )elgar1uk Wrote:  The only way I can explain the Boris U-turn is that he didn't ever think that Leave would win. Now that it has won he's stuck with a gigantic mess and feels the only way out is to back down on all his promises.

Leave have been backtracking on their promises within hours of the result being announced, especially on their 2 key promises on the NHS & Immigration

Maybe we should have realised that whatever promises politicians make, they will find a way to wriggle of out of those promises

Farage has just spoken in the European Parliament. Well done Nigel it's a great way to get good exit terms by insulting the people who have to sign off on what is negotiated. What a total gobshite he is.

I doubt we will get good exit terms anyway, if we did, everyone would want to leave.

So what's going to happen now? If Boris becomes PM he faces dissident backbenchers in his own party and cries for an early election may be hard to resist. Then the Liberal Democrats and Labour (which by then would have a more credible leader) would both promise to stop Brexit if elected.