Oh, those Russians

Do you think Vladimir Putin is ©overtly trying to destabilise the Western world for his own ends, including rigging the American Elections (somehow)?

Or, you know, not

Clinton got more votes, it was Americas perculier voting system that ment she lost.

So I'm geussing not, nor more than he was responcible for Brexit.

Fucking hell cant belive it im going to agree with Wackawoo

Clinton was always going to lose

Yeah Russians did hack and interfere in the election but almost every other leader in western world intefered by denouncing trump

Following his meeting with intelligence chiefs on Friday, President-elect Trump has released the following statement.

"There is no direct evidence the Russians were involved. Vlad wouldn't do something like that anyway, folks. He's a good guy (really, he's a good guy), you just need to get to know him.
I have spoken directly to Mr Assange and he assures me it was, in fact, the Klingons (the Klingons did it, folks).
But do not worry folks, we're gonna build a wall (a big, beautiful wall) just beyond the Moon.
And we're gonna make the Klingons pay for it!

It's gonna be great folks!"

You joke, but it's the Democrats looking for a scapegoat, any scapegoat to compensate for their belief that Hillary was so amazing that she couldn't possibly have lost for reasons of her own awfulness. So if not the Russians or the Chinese, or the North Koreans, then Martians and Klingons can only be a matter of time.

Or Arabs, maybe.

Of course Clinton lost it all on her own. The Democrats couldn't have picked a worse candidate if they'd tried.
But I doubt the Intelligence agencies would be prostrating themselves before such a hostile incoming administration if they didn't have real evidence.
I don't think it made any difference to the election, though.

I wonder if this evidence involves witness testimony from Trump voters who were Clinton voters but changed their minds on the strength of so-called hacked information.

I'm guessing not.

the definitive proof the dnc is going on about is the ip was traced to a Russian vpn and the 1 pdf document in amongst 30,000 emails had been edited with a russian text enabled computer.
thats it.
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/14/here...ot-enough/
basically there assumption it was a russian hack is speculation at best. at least going by the publicly available evidence.

assange and wiki leaks give a different take. they say the leaked emails may have came from a staffer in the DNC called Seth Conrad Rich, 27. who was later found gunned down in Washington D.C. in an apparent robbery. a robbery which left all his money and valuables at the scene.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...r-old.html

in reality, this is a shit show, in which every concerned party has there own narrative.

anyhoo. to me its all bullshit. its smoke and mirrors being used to try and deflect the criminal activities of the Washington elites.

In essence then mate I would just say this : -
The more you dig the murkier it gets!!

Whoever was behind the hack and whatever their reasons I think it laughable that Trump now says it had no impact on the election considering he is on record as mentioning Wikileaks over 160 times in the last month of the election. This issue is putting him on a collision course with the Republican party elected officials who don't trust Russia. I expect the nomination hearings of his Cabinet picks to be dominated by this issue and the financial arrangements of the millionaires and billionaires he has nominated.