US Election & Presidency

(10-02-2017 20:02 )hops1 Wrote:  Security & border forces use racial profiling and it's a fact the the majority of foreign born terrorists are Muslim (or claim to be, I appreciate they have a warped view of their religion) which is of course not saying all Muslims are terrorists. As such Muslims or those travelling from Muslim countries are subject to profiling. It's used by all nations. I have personally been questioned entering Muslim countries due to certain stamps in my passport. It's sadly a fact of modern life.

What is required is that Trump stops reacting like a child and puts together a plan that is within the terms of legality. He doesn't have to do this he gets someone intelligent to do it but he must stop all this shouting and nonsense.

Why must he stop all the 'shouting and nonsense'? He's won an election saying some pretty radical policies and he's trying to enact those policies. No one can say they didn't have fair warning. Trump is trying to do what he laid out in his campaign and ultimately he won the election. As per any other President he is restrained by the courts (as highlighted by the temporary quashing of his immigration ban) as well as Congress (potentially - if they disagree with his policies). Trump is not a tyrant. In four years if enough of the US electorate think he's done a good job he'll get back in, if not he'll be out. It's democracy.

He has yet to demonstrate he believes in democracy.

^^^^ Based upon what evidence?

Trump stood in the Republican primaries and won. He stood in the Presidential election and won. He hadn't suppressed demonstrations, he's be restrained by the courts. Ultimately he won an election and has the right to try to govern within the legal and institutional structures of the US constitution.

He won and the election is over congrats he can't keep campaigning it's over he now has to govern so far he is not doing it. He is still ranting like he was on the campaign.

I'm not sure Trump can be accused of not governing. He's been pretty busy so far enacting laws and signing executive orders! Perhaps if Obama had delivered a bit more of his campaign promises Hilary Clinton may have won.

(10-02-2017 18:46 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  Feel free to tell us the alternative facts.

Other than the ones I have been stating in a more level headed way yiu mean?

Since when as a picture of Trump with an Hitler moustach been an established fact?

The problem with extremist, it's they are extremist and will always go too far, and then become irrational.

(10-02-2017 21:18 )hops1 Wrote:  I'm not sure Trump can be accused of not governing. He's been pretty busy so far enacting laws and signing executive orders! Perhaps if Obama had delivered a bit more of his campaign promises Hilary Clinton may have won.

You can't rule by executive order alone. A country is not the same as a private company.

(10-02-2017 21:27 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 18:46 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  Feel free to tell us the alternative facts.

Other than the ones I have been stating in a more level headed way yiu mean?

Since when as a picture of Trump with an Hitler moustach been an established fact?

The problem with extremist, it's they are extremist and will always go too far, and then become irrational.

Completely agree. Those equating Trump with Hitler have (IMO) a fairly flimsy grasp of history and, to TBH, I think it's fairly insulting to the memory of the many millions of victims of Nazism.

(10-02-2017 21:27 )wackawoo Wrote:  Other than the ones I have been stating in a more level headed way yiu mean?

Since when as a picture of Trump with an Hitler moustach been an established fact?

The problem with extremist, it's they are extremist and will always go too far, and then become irrational.

If he was conducting himself as a president and not as a CEO of a private company he would not have so much heat.