worst ever England football eleven

like i said carlton palmer wasent as bad as every 1 seems to think and after the paddy power advert hes gotta get some credit for that, i know its not football but it funny as fuck

I make Richard Wright goalkeeper and captain of the worst ever England team. He hasn't even established himself as Premier League quality let alone international class, so I think he's much more deserving than any other goalkeeper you could name. Scott Carson is actually a pretty good keeper, better than countless other England keepers, Ian Walker, Gary Bailey, Paul Robinson etc.

Team:

Richard Wright

Danny Mills
Neil Ruddock
John Scales
Chris Powell

John Salako
Phil Neville
Seth Johnson
The Celtic player who got a cap under Eriksson

Michael Ricketts
David Nugent

Whilst I agree with a lot of what u guys are saying I think ur being a tad harsh on some players who played only once or twice for us thus not ever getting a full crack at being really shite for England. If you cant excuse Scott Carson an untimely error in just 2 or 3 appearances but can excuse someone like John Barnes who pretty much sucked for England after 1986 but carried on playing for another 7 or 8 years then there is something wrong! They are truly the worst in my opinion, those who played more than a handfull times and never had a good game.

(18-08-2009 14:30 )astonv1 Wrote:  Whilst I agree with a lot of what u guys are saying I think ur being a tad harsh on some players who played only once or twice for us thus not ever getting a full crack at being really shite for England. If you cant excuse Scott Carson an untimely error in just 2 or 3 appearances but can excuse someone like John Barnes who pretty much sucked for England after 1986 but carried on playing for another 7 or 8 years then there is something wrong! They are truly the worst in my opinion, those who played more than a handfull times and never had a good game.

But it is because they sucked so much they were not given another chance to suck. Did you ever hear what brian clough once said to Larry Lloyd after he had a nightmare against Wales?' Larry who was the fella who had two england caps at once?' Larry Lloyd had no answer 'you Larry your fourth and your last'

(18-08-2009 14:57 )setter1000 Wrote:  

(18-08-2009 14:30 )astonv1 Wrote:  Whilst I agree with a lot of what u guys are saying I think ur being a tad harsh on some players who played only once or twice for us thus not ever getting a full crack at being really shite for England. If you cant excuse Scott Carson an untimely error in just 2 or 3 appearances but can excuse someone like John Barnes who pretty much sucked for England after 1986 but carried on playing for another 7 or 8 years then there is something wrong! They are truly the worst in my opinion, those who played more than a handfull times and never had a good game.

But it is because they sucked so much they were not given another chance to suck. Did you ever hear what brian clough once said to Larry Lloyd after he had a nightmare against Wales?' Larry who was the fella who had two england caps at once?' Larry Lloyd had no answer 'you Larry your fourth and your last'

...but how do we know that for example Gary Bailey (GK mentioned elsewhere in the thread) who played 2 times for England, conceeding just once wouldnt have gone on to keep countless clean sheets if he was given more than 2 caps to prove it??? Thats why i would look at someone like David James and say "Fuck me, hes played 48 times for England and each one of those times ive spent the entire game just waiting for him to fuck up at some point. He's actually proven he was shit in an England shirt!!!!


...and No i never heard what Cloughie said but it is quite funny

point taken but david james did have some good games for example against turkey that save against nihatt meant he won the game for us. The thread is a mixture between those that were terrible for england terrible in general and In carlton Palmers case both. Jeff Thomas had a few caps but any one that follows football would say he was one of the all time worst players to have played for england

(18-08-2009 15:35 )setter1000 Wrote:  point taken but david james did have some good games for example against turkey that save against nihatt meant he won the game for us. The thread is a mixture between those that were terrible for england terrible in general and In carlton Palmers case both. Jeff Thomas had a few caps but any one that follows football would say he was one of the all time worst players to have played for england

now you see the problem with Geoff Thomas was...he didnt deserve to get in the side full stop. ( how the fuck he got 8 caps i'll never know!)At that time i remember as a villa fan being dismayed that if that fuckwit could play central midfield then why werent they considering people like Gordan Cowans or Kevin Richardson to name just the Villa players that deserved it let alone the rest of the midfielders in the league !!!

(18-08-2009 15:42 )astonv1 Wrote:  

(18-08-2009 15:35 )setter1000 Wrote:  point taken but david james did have some good games for example against turkey that save against nihatt meant he won the game for us. The thread is a mixture between those that were terrible for england terrible in general and In carlton Palmers case both. Jeff Thomas had a few caps but any one that follows football would say he was one of the all time worst players to have played for england

now you see the problem with Geoff Thomas was...he didnt deserve to get in the side full stop. ( how the fuck he got 8 caps i'll never know!)At that time i remember as a villa fan being dismayed that if that fuckwit could play central midfield then why werent they considering people like Gordan Cowans or Kevin Richardson to name just the Villa players that deserved it let alone the rest of the midfielders in the league !!!

Gordan cowans did a game for england under taylor though when he decided to drop Gascoigne against Ireland in dublin. I think he played another game not sure who against. Most of the worse players to have played for England came courtesy of grahame taylor. Those caps Jeff Thomas got were also at the expense of Matt Le Tessier. I know he managed your beloved villa and did a good job for one season when you came close to winning the title but he has to go down as the all time worst manager of england. His win record was flattered by friendlys.

Totally agree with ur assesment of Graham Taylor, he should never have taken the job when he did as i think if he'd have stayed it could have been the start of something special. As it happened we got Dr Josef Venglos who decided that English youth was not the way forward but instaead a load of Swedes, Norweigans, and Germans and selling the likes of Alan Mcinally, Gordon Cowans and David Platt to foreign clubs...sorry bit off topic but Graham Taylor would definatley manage Englands all time worst XI ...."Would he not like that".....

(18-08-2009 13:22 )aldershot1993 Wrote:  Richard Wright

Danny Mills
Neil Ruddock
John Scales
Chris Powell

John Salako
Phil Neville
Seth Johnson
The Celtic player who got a cap under Eriksson

Michael Ricketts
David Nugent

The name you're missing from your team is Alan Thompson (1 cap for England as you say, when with Celtic, but he's now retired from playing and working as a youth academy coach at Newcastle).