Babestation24 - Chat & Discussion (No Requests in this thread)

This review of last night is based solely on the first 3 hours. The rest went unseen/unrecorded.

Can be summed up in two sayings.

"Lightning rarely strikes twice in the same place"

"You can lead a horse to water but you can not force him to drink"

And for good measure, here is a third. Comparing Jolina on Monday to Amanda last night is like comparing cheese with chalk.

(26-09-2018 09:26 )DB83 Wrote:  And for good measure, here is a third. Comparing Jolina on Monday to Amanda last night is like comparing cheese with chalk.

Yes. First I was a bit excited because the Pervcam was activated. But then...

I might surprise you but I don´t blame Amanda Hard for this desaster.
She talked a bit about herself last night and said that she is mainly a stripper and exotic dancer. I looked her up on the net and my conclusion is that she doesn´t do hardcore and never did.
I think you have to respect a girl for doing so. So I blame the production team for inviting her on a solo show on the Pervcam for a whole night.
I said this before: This is in my opinion in fraud/scam territory. The advertisement says "What you DON´T see on TV". There were people yesterday who paid 1€/minute for watching a crotch with a slip on. There was a well earned outrage in the Chat.

This brings back memories.... Eurotic TV had the same problems. They invited "soft models" to their night shows who refused to even take their bras off. The thing was: There were enough other models who did. This led to very "funny" scenes were some girls showed their pussies right next to a girl who was casually dressed like in a restaurant

So. The production team is to blame for last night. Either invite girls who are OK with showing everything or if you have a girl who is sexy but won´t show everything (which i respect) : Have a second girl for the really hot stuff.

And they knew that they fucked it up pretty well last night because there was absolutely no interaction with the Chat. The night before with Jolina they were constantly writing but last night: Not a single word.

I said it before: This fluctuation in quality is ridiculous.

I do not blame Amanda either. One should never force anyone to do something out of their comfort zone.

Eurotic was different. You may not realise but the 'soft' girls earned a fair bit less than the 'hot' ones so the mix was money influenced even with the better 'soft' girls actually bringing in more for the service than the 'hot' ones. On top of that if a 'soft' model was on a night show and she also had a mobile for off-screen chatting then she had to get a certain number of minutes to even get that reduced payment. Twas rather unfair since one of my friends was a 'hot' girl and she didn't have a mobile since it was impractical due to her day job.

And later when they were running the PPV stuff you saw 'soft' girls being ultra 'soft' on the tv but on the PPV they were un-dressed. So no one can convince me that this was not pre-planned.

a year ago there were almost always 3 girls to do soft shows.
now that they can make money with the pervcam they often put only 1 girls with 90-minute breaks during the night. I saw in another channel that use the green screen to create different environments and atmospheres, it would be nice to do it here even if I have no doubt that they will never do it because good ideas avoid them like that of the wireless phone used 2 evenings with the girls waving the phone in their hands.they are taking girls who work as porn stars and camgirls to avoid yesterday's amandha situation. the girls who work there for years who make sexy stars are called less and less. for example remember sydney pearl also do 10-13 days a month in some periods. from July to September she did only 6 days. the last time they had to give the pervcam to nicole charming even though it was not expected due to the huge demand of the users.

(26-09-2018 12:07 )DB83 Wrote:  So no one can convince me that this was not pre-planned.

But why do such a lame show right after one of the best shows in months? Why getting the expectations high and then do a show like last night?

I wrote a few pages back that you can explain everything with that they think that a certain decision earns them more money. But in this instant I can´t see anything but a major disappointment and users who are turning away.

Maybe they are thinking that this is some kind of tease but I really have to say to them (if I could) that this is just unnerving. Then I have to say they shouldn´t do shows like Jolina´s at all. Because now we know what they can show if they really want to.

This whole issue leads me again and again to the question: Why am I watching this and why did I develope some kind of a passion for this show so that I am actually arguing in a forum about this

I could literally write a P.H.D Thesis on how to get shows like this better (my main point is that they have to get away from emulating porn on TV, they have to concentrate on erotic which they actually can show, it has to get more "directed", more locations etc.) but it will never happen.

One potential reason is that the production team was different last night to the previous. They can also be under pressure to produce results which could be translated as give Amanda the cam and hope.

Again, one can use Eurotic as the yardstick and some shows were significantly more 'hot' than others and one often knew who the production team were. So you got vindaloo hot with Veni/Georg but tepid with others.

I have a suspicion that Amira is now a producer/director - showed up once for 20 mins and was not seen on screen again. Whether she is the adventurous type or the cautious I do not know simply because we do not know who runs the show (apart from that night when the director was seen on screen coaching Gymbunny)

On a side note they do appear to be going through the visit-x rota for their 'specials'. From May turn up = quite a few. June is busting out all over = Aby Action. And this week July Johnson. (yeah. Another crap joke but atleast I try )

(26-09-2018 17:52 )DB83 Wrote:  One potential reason is that the production team was different last night to the previous. They can also be under pressure to produce results which could be translated as give Amanda the cam and hope.

Well they must have known that she doesn´t do hardcore. I stand by my opinion even if I never use the Pervcam: If you advertise the cam as hardcore and insertions are popping up every 5 Minutes that this is something that "You DON´T see on TV" then you have to have a girl who is willing to do that. If I imagnine I would have actually paid something to see yesterday I would eat my computer mouse out of rage.
In the time of Internet Porn it is bold (some might say ridiculous) to charge for porn anyway but if you do NEVER do it like last night.

Even if this is harsh but that was scammy.

They lost many viewers last night.

(26-09-2018 17:52 )DB83 Wrote:  Again, one can use Eurotic as the yardstick and some shows were significantly more 'hot' than others and one often knew who the production team were. So you got vindaloo hot with Veni/Georg but tepid with others.

Yes this might be. Maybe sometimes they have new "producers" or "directors" or what is the right word and they are a bit shy or they are afraid to break rules* or they simply aren´t as inventive as others.
But I think they should at least follow a certain line. Like you already pointed out: Between Amanda and Jolina the show was like day and night.

BTW Tyra seems to have cancelled tonight and Angie Kroxx is alone. She definetely does hardcore and I might say some pretty rough stuff. So If she disappoints it was definetly the production team.

*I have a nice anecdote on how "strict" German rules are: You maybe know the German channel "visit-x". From 8p.m. on until 1 p.m. they have camgirls who are streaming directly from their home mostly for 20-30 minutes. It is not worth watching, they never go fully nude. It is mostly a tease for their Cam Website. A few years back there was a girl who was oblivious to the fact that she was on cam on TV and masturbated without pants for at least 5 minutes before someone pushed the button and she eventually vanished from the screen. They never suffered consequences.

^^ True. It's not the rules but the complaints.

So no one complained. I have seen various incidents on visit-x in the past few years when the guy who should be monitoring 'fell asleep'. There was one girl, who has not been on for a while, who you could say was a serial offender and with anything live that is the appeal to the viewer.

(26-09-2018 20:50 )DB83 Wrote:  ^^ True. It's not the rules but the complaints.

So no one complained. I have seen various incidents on visit-x in the past few years when the guy who should be monitoring 'fell asleep'. There was one girl, who has not been on for a while, who you could say was a serial offender and with anything live that is the appeal to the viewer.

The rules for public nudity in Germany are similiar. You can be naked in public. The law is OK with that but if someone complaints you have to dress or you can get problems.

Technically showing porn to the public is a felony in Germany but if it is seen a few minutes on TV there are very rare cases when something happens.

Babestation24 had their few incidents too. In the first years CaraCum (does anybody remember?) simply forgot that she already lost her pants and spread the legs until the cameraman reacted. They laughed for 5 minutes straight. Or there was once an asian girl (I forgot the name) who thought it was a good idea to do doggystyle with her pants just laid over her. Of course it slipped down und you could see everything. Or the black girl who seemed to struggle to unterstand that this is not a porn show and constantly spread her legs. The cameraman had a busy night

So technically they could have lost their license in every single instance but in reality nobody cares.

As it stands, I want to give my heart-felt thanks to both Amanda and Angi for affording me an early night x 2

I don't quite remember when I first started watching this ch. I do recall Julia Herz.

In an attempt to stay awake just for a short while I took a look at the caps/vids topic (well those that survive) from its birth and twas interesting to read some comments from an old sparring partner of mine - Mauro. So it seems that these inconsistencies from day to day are nothing new.