Dr Who

(07-10-2018 22:56 )Tractor boy Wrote:  On first impressions I think Jodie will do a fine job in the role as doctor, the first episodes story line was pretty weak though, and building a sonic screwdriver from scrap material was like something from the A team.

Did like that they showed her soldering a circuit board which was clearly bigger than the device she ended up with. And as if a PCB would do the trick any way

I've never watched it for years so the Female Doctor thing isn't of much interest but the amount of thick, ignorant Americans on Twitter moaning about the Yorkshire accents today made me laugh.

They really don't understand irony across the pond, do they?

Enjoyed it last night. Some of the visual effects looked pretty sweet.
Spent most of the ep being constantly reminded of Leanne Battersby, but that's quite ok.

"The road to Good Intentions be paved with Hell"

It was OK. Jodie was fine, Bradley was good, it was a straightforward story. The idea of a trailer going "Look! Lee Mack! Art Malik! etc" was an interesting change.

(08-10-2018 09:05 )babelover48 Wrote:  I think the worries about there being a female were truly dispelled, I think Jodie acquitted her to the role very well and maybe it is move that gives the role a different perspective unlike Barbara Broccoli saying last week that James Bond could never be played by a woman I would not be surprised if in say, ten years time would get a female Bond. However, if and when Jodie leaves Dr Who, which way should regen go, back to a man or bring in another female Doctor? One for the future discussion I think. And while on the regen subject what was the name of the Chinese character that was around when regens took place in the original series I remember seeing him on screen twice I think - was it Chin Lee or something and who payed him?

Looks like Chang Lee, played by Yee Jee Tso in " Doctor Who: The Movie. "

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Yee_Jee_Tso

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yee_Jee_Tso

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_(TV_story)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_(film)

From Digital Spy " What each Doctor Who actor said about their regeneration scenes. "

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/...witterpost

"Doctor Whoooo, doctor who, doctor whooooo, yeah, the T.A.R.D.I.S." so sang Doctor and the Timelords(or members of the KLF) once but hang on, where was the T.A.R.D.I.S.? Are we to have to wait until next week to find out-you can't have the Doctor without his/her T.A.R.D.I.S we do know it dematerialised somewhere but WHERE? It seems to have gone down well on social media and watched by a record 8.2m people(until you factor in the recordings made and the catch up service BBC iplayer)

is it me or does the fact she has a thick Huddersfield accent make the show seem almost like a parody of itself ...kudos to her for keeping the accent btw as im a fellow yorkshire person

Looks like I may be in a minority, but I thought it was ... meh!
I mean it wasn't exactly bad, definitely an improvement on what it had become, but wasn't great either.

For me, the new doc was a bit weak, but I let that slide as it's the first episode, it'll take probably the first series for her to really develop into the character and make it her own, so I don't have a major issue with that at this stage.

The companions were pretty weak I thought, As characters, not one of them really grabbed me and offered anything that made me feel anything for them. Bradley Walsh delivered a dramatic performance that just proves he's a better comedian than he is an actor .. and he's a shit comedian!
The one member of the supporting cast that had anything about her was the one that died, granny Grace. And let's face it, her death was a forgone conclusion, she had to come a cropper so the two guys could go on to become the companions. She was as doomed as the anonymous crew member on a Star Trek away mission (so much for the pc-ism of a female lead, yet another case of a female character dying so the male character(s) can become more relevant)

The building the sonic screwdriver thing was just nonsense, what is this fucking MacGuyver??
The baddie was less scary than some of the creatures in my town centre on a saturday night. If they wanted a scary creature with a face full of teeth, there's any number of better options, Esther Rantzen, Janet Street Porter, Shane MacGowan ...
The theme music remix was awful ... just why?
Hated the montage of 'future guest stars' at the end. Totally and utterly pointless, and kind of diminished the whole thing. Felt a bit like they were saying 'yeah, the shows still a bit shit, but look who we got coming up to keep you watching'. Doctor Who should be about the doctor, NOT about the cameos from supposedly famous faces (the show has become increasingly geared towards the US audience, who will, most likely, not know most of these 'iconic' guests, such is their status).

The overall production values felt better though. It actually looked and felt like a 'grown up' show instead of something that escaped from cbeebies, a definite improvement there.

So, all in all, a step in the right direction, but only a step, I didn't dislike watching it, or feel disappointed having seen it, for the first time in a long time.
Is it enough to make me tune in again next week? Probably not. I might give it a go next series once the new doc and the production team have all had a chance to really bed into their roles (and hopefuly Walsh's character will have been killed off by then ), but otherwise, when you compare it to some of the real high quality production coming out from the states and from the web services these days (and occasionally even from the UK channels), it's just not on the same level, it's just too quaint, and too twee, and that just doesn't do it for me anymore. I'm a grown up now, and I need grown up tv, and this still isn't quite there yet.

(08-10-2018 16:15 )andyjb Wrote:  

(08-10-2018 09:05 )babelover48 Wrote:  I think the worries about there being a female were truly dispelled, I think Jodie acquitted her to the role very well and maybe it is move that gives the role a different perspective unlike Barbara Broccoli saying last week that James Bond could never be played by a woman I would not be surprised if in say, ten years time would get a female Bond. However, if and when Jodie leaves Dr Who, which way should regen go, back to a man or bring in another female Doctor? One for the future discussion I think. And while on the regen subject what was the name of the Chinese character that was around when regens took place in the original series I remember seeing him on screen twice I think - was it Chin Lee or something and who payed him?

Looks like Chang Lee, played by Yee Jee Tso in " Doctor Who: The Movie. "

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Yee_Jee_Tso

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yee_Jee_Tso

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_(TV_story)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_(film)

Think the OP might be thinking of the Buddhist monk character Cho - Je, played by Kevin Lyndsay (who cornered the market in playing Sontarans in the classic series in the early 1970s) from Jon Pertwee's last story Planet Of The Spiders who turns out to be a Time Lord and gives the dead Doctor "a push" to help him turn into Tom Baker.
Arguably Tom Baker is the first Doctor who properly self-regenerates in the classic series:
William Hartnell seems to need the TARDIS to help him because he's put it off too long; Troughton gets a new face forced on him by those pesky Time Lords when we''ve only just found out they exist and the Doctor's one of them ; Pertwee needs Cho Je to trigger his change after he's "died"; and regeneration isn't really talked about in the TV shows themselves as a process that Time Lords can routinely do until Pertwee's last story/ early Tom Baker stories like Brain of Morbius, and Deadly Assassin - when random rules about number of times it can be done etc are dropped as throwaway lines and seized on by fandom as tablets of stone...... basically it's all Robert Holmes' fault.
And once you get into Davison's era it's mentioned practically every story, as the show became obsessed with its own continuity in the mistaken belief this made fairly dull stories more interesting (a belief that then plagued the series and its reboots ever since ).....

......pub bore exits left.....