Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

^ How can they be by the same person!

So Farage - you know the one? rips into the EU, yet is more than happy to 'ride the gravy train', and to take the euro to swell his bank balance?? Well he has been giving us all the benefit of his wisdom once again today, with regard to the Luxembourg PM, and how HE - yes HE - insulted Bojo! No mention of Johnson's petulance in not attending the pre arranged press conference with the elected Luxembourg leader, and how that portrayed us as 4 nation kingdom, our character and standing as the UK. Johnson represents everyone of us when attending these meetings - not just those he agrees with! It is uncanny the similarities between his behaviour, and that of the clown in the USA - it truly is!!. Not to mention, truly chastening!!

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Just sayin...

Quote:I find it difficult to get too exercised about Trump when we are so dangerously close to having Boris Johnson as a Prime Minister.

Boris is worse.

(18-09-2019 13:55 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Bet Boris wishes he could Porogue the general public

Visits a hospital and is shouted at by a dad of a sick kid

another marxist activist stooge...like geezer ooop norf...whipps cross is a shit hole...labour made it that..oh yes labour who made multi billionaires...by paying 20%+ a year to the wanker cronies to fund hospitals...whilst you marxists get 0.6%

He's still not my PM!! I didn't vote for him!! come the GE, I think it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils the public can stomach - Corbyn or Johnson in No.10

(18-09-2019 19:52 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  ^^^^

Just sayin...

Quote:I find it difficult to get too exercised about Trump when we are so dangerously close to having Boris Johnson as a Prime Minister.

Boris is worse.

For all you know they probably were separated at birth!! Mind you, it could have been a lot worse - we could have even had Piers Morgan in No.10!! Now THAT would have been worse!!

Brexit has most definitely taken a worrying turn.
I have concerns over most of the options on the table.

Option 1: No deal.
I fear economic disaster with this option both in short term and long.
I fear unmitigated chaos, delay and loss of businesses galore.

Option 2: A peoples vote/referendum.
My fear with this is even if the principle of a 2nd referendum is agreed the arguments will then turn to how many options are on the ballot paper and what they are.
Staunch Brexiteers may insist that remain should not be one of the options.
Staunch Remainers may insist that No Deal is not one of the options.
Will either side concede Theresa Mays deal be one of the options?
And no matter what the options would be I fear it would provide an inconclusive result anyway to stir the pot even more.

Option 3: A General Election.
My fear with this option is a hung parliament.
But there is more to it than just that. A hung parliament full of hard left winning candidates on the Labour side as well as a hard right wing Brexiteer influx on the Conservative side. The Liberal Democrats may make gains but will no doubt prove toxic with their idea of revoking article 50 in the event of obtaining a majority.
A hung parliament I fear will lead to further parliamentary paralysis.

Option 4: Revoking Article 50 and Remaining.
Obviously the criticism with this option will be that it defies the democratic will of the electorate from the original referendum and therefore brings the whole process into disrepute.

On the basis of the above worries I conclude that there is only one alternative.
A deal.
Parliament needs to agree on something.
Continuous indicative votes over and over with as many amendnents as required over as many hours and days as required.
Time and again the EU have been frustrated by the UK saying only what it doesn't want rather than what it does want. This situation must be reversed.
The problem of course is that Parliament cannot even try to resolve it because it isn't sitting at the moment .
All the hallmarks of running down the clock to an attempted, forced no deal in spite of a bill designed to prevent that very outcome.

I voted to remain but I do believe the referendum result should be abided by.
WITH A DEAL and ONLY........WITH A DEAL.

No matter what it takes. Get a bloody deal.

Boris is fucked !!!!

Fucked where?