Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

When the money men decide Johnson is a liability he will be gone, end off.

(06-10-2019 08:34 )Bandwagon Wrote:  No, this was about deliberate attempts to conveniently muddy the waters at a time when it really isn't needed. If Boris has done this throw him to the wolves, stick his name alongside all the other wankers from the 2009 expenses scandal. Nothing surprising really.

As I said, a free pass till after Brexit. Of course they could've picked someone whose skeletons weren't actually waving from the open cupboard door and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

(06-10-2019 08:34 )Bandwagon Wrote:  None of this is helpful and I must say, this includes the Benn act also. I can see us getting caught in EU limbo for years to come. All that did was help castrate any potential negotiation leverage we may have had,

People seem to forget that Boris pissed alot of the leverage away himself, at the start, by promising there would be no import tariffs on EU goods in the event of no-deal. This means the EU, along with just about every other country in the world (thanks to Boris's failure to grasp the WTO rules) can continue to pump their goods into this country, tariff free, without having to give us any similar concessions. If he's as good as his word (and knowing our luck, this would be the one thing he did stick to) a Boris no-deal would be the worst kind of no-deal possible.

So, yes. If corruption charges is what it takes to get him out, then so be it. Get someone (anyone) else in while there's still time to bring the country through this in one piece and re-unite it afterwards.
Don't get me wrong. If he did manage to pull it off and get a deal, nobody would be happier than me. It won't be through good intentions and honest endeavour though. It will be because he was frog-marched into it with one hand twisted up his back.

(06-10-2019 08:34 )Bandwagon Wrote:  Shameful shower of shit.

On that at least, we can agree

On a lighter note, Arcuri claims they had a shared love of Shakespeare.

"Boris, Boris, wherefore art thou Boris"

"Up here on this zip wire, get me down, fwar, fwar"

There's a part of me that wishes he was still stuck on the zip wire nd everybody ignoring him as they walk past

So downing st now trying to blame merkel for scuppering the new deal

Boris is now saying that he's going for a no deal Brexit.
How's he going to do that after the Ben act was passed.

Boris may be going to jail. He can have the next cell to Trump

This is from Adam Fleming, the BBC's Brussels reporter

"No-one really wants to comment directly on this phone call - certainly not Berlin. But talking to EU officials and diplomats in Brussels, there is considerable scepticism.
That's because the words attributed to Angela Merkel do not reflect the EU's agreed language.
For one, Mrs Merkel and the EU have repeatedly said they will keep talking to the last second and will not pull the plug before that.
And secondly, the No 10 source claims the EU wants to keep Northern Ireland permanently "trapped" in the customs union - Brussels insists it doesn't want that at all, it just wants the option for Northern Ireland stay inside temporarily until something else is worked out.
So as I say, scepticism. It could be a misinterpretation or it could be a deliberate bit of spin, because we're now entering into a blame game about whose fault it is that progress isn't being made."

From what we have seen since Johnson became Prime Minister I just don't believe my own government who alongside condemning us to being worse off are saying they will reduce food hygiene standards in order to get a trade deal with Trump. Absolutely contemptible

Going to use Quo vadis a lot now bascially means WTF are you playing at

Seriously wtf

^ They're not even trying to hide it anymore, are they