(08-10-2019 21:44 )Goodfella3041 Wrote: (08-10-2019 18:04 )hornball Wrote: I may not be met with a kind response here, but I believe Putin too has had his actions, and/or public announcements misjudged! I think his intention is not a 'takeover', but instead to show to - not least a proud domestic audience - his strength as a leader, and determination not to be pushed around by the west (specifically USA) as an individual, and in terms of Russia as a whole!
I think I suggested something similar in an earlier post or a different thread.
I personally think there is something in the collective Russian psyche that makes them feel perpetually threatened and under siege and that therefore requires a strong leader to 'save' them from some perceived threat.
Gorbachev saved us from the Soviets. Yeltsin saved us from the Communists. Putin saved us from the Capitalists.
With the oligarchs essentially 'tamed' through a tacit agreement that Putin stays out of their business if they stay out of his politics, he needed another threat to confront and therefore retain his position as the country's savior. That threat has turned out to be the West, which is portrayed as an alliance of countries that want to prevent Russia from taking its rightful place among the great powers.
His efforts to destabilize western democracies by creating discord and sowing chaos is not so much about 'world domination' in Bond-villain sort of way. It is more about impressing on his own people that the grass is no greener on the other side and that they should be happy with the system they've got.
Just another crackpot theory, mind you...
Couldn't agree more with that!! I think you could actually be describing, in many ways, the USA itself. Yes it has been attacked in the most profound way (SEPT 11th) which shook them to the core, and drove a coach and horses through their self created 'air of invincibility' so has a right to feel a certain level of insecurity - indeed paranoia! This goes deeper though, and historically, much further back than that particular time! I see the USA, and it's sense of itself, as being built on being able to stand up to an enemy. If it isn't faced with an actual threat, it somehow feels the need to 'create one'!! There is one presenter on CNN - many will have heard the name - called Smirconish! It is only a soundbite - I accept - but the trailer for his show is one where he says 'quote' ''What happened to when we were
united against a common enemy! Personally I think that speaks volumes! It speaks to, both the fractures within USA society, and what has historically united them!!
Nothing could ever justify sept 11th, but I will never forget a comment picked up on tv, and relayed during one of the many documentaries made of that day's events from actual footage, from a U.S citizen when they said ''This is what happens when we 'interfere around the world' ''
I thought to myself, 'he gets it' Particularly when that interference/intervention is not even handed, or is simply nakedly self serving'
The most recent test of this - ''don't do as we do - do as we say'' mentality, is around the case of the road traffic accident involving an American diplomats' wife! Would the USA 'go quietly' had a Briton been involved in a similar accident in the USA, and left the country?? I will leave that one with you!