(17-03-2020 09:04 )babelover48 Wrote: Let me say this: - If you want to put black girls into the hall of fame you got to both nominate and vote for them first...it might even happen this year, I think it would be nice to have a latin/black entry as we have put several of white origin over the last few contests and it would be nice to see some diversity.
Let me k now what you think
I'm not inclined to ascribe latin as non-white. That's an American thing, where they're so enterprising, and obsessed with racialised divisions, they invented new categories.
I say that as a black person, who's an internationalist, who's against identity politics, and not an 'Afro-pessimist', and therefore, I'm not minimising the discrimination faced by latin people in US.
Although, with a background in the Indian subcontinent, on one side of my family, I wouldn't be 'pure' enough, for 'Afro-pessimists'.
But, in various ways, I wouldn't consider racism to be black and white.
For example, refugees from the Yugoslav war, fled far worse racism, than I have encountered, as a middle-aged black man in England.
I'm sure some will resist my being so political. But race is inevitably so.
Several years ago, on the since-deceased Xpanded forum, I did remark on how few non-white women there had been among its tv presenters.
Up to that time, there had been one woman who I think was on BS ebony, whose name I forget, sadly, and Roxanne Jeffers, who is mixed-race, and half-Brazilian, as I recall. Brazil's being the country with most people of African descent, apart from Nigeria.
It was probably not too long later, that Nicole Snow started. But after that, none, till Mila Moore, and weeks after, Rhea Rose, appeared, with a fleeting appearance from Tamara Loveset, who I'm only guessing isn't white.
I don't think these channels need to proportionately represent every ethnicity. But Xpanded does stand out, as having had the fewest non-white tv presenters.
I don't think any poll, needs to positively discriminate either. But it seems to be a question that's unresolvable.
I don't think there was much response on Xpanded forum, and certainly not from the company itself.
There was more response, when I tried to discuss 'race-play', in one of the threads, that were started by mysterious people who disappeared, after starting some threads.
Almost everyone wanted to shut that discussion down.
Eventually, I was banned, in the middle of a thread I subsequently started, about the severe limits on a forum for adults.
Although I did prompt a moderator to be more candid, than he wanted, about the apparently greater importance, at least, at that time, attributed to the webcam side, than tv.
I still have screenshots from then, but I won't be saying anymore on this forum. Not just because I find some of my writing there, embarrassing now.
I hope this isn't banished to the Twilight Zone, as I think it's crucially pertinent to this thread's subject matter. These channels aren't islands, removed from these questions.