Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it?

The insanity that is Italy :

“Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of ‘life-years’ left even if they should survive, would be left to die.” – The Atlantic, discussing Italian Socialist Healthcare Guidelines for an escalation of the Wuhan coronavirus

As shown in the below RAIR Foundation USA exclusively-translated videos, socialist Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, a strong advocate of unchecked migration, announced measures to contain the coronavirus by quarantining the northern province of Lombardy, resulting in panicked Italians fleeing the area. The healthcare in Italy’s government run system is also being heavily rationed, with elderly people literally being turned away from treatment.

Open borders Italy has been hit particularly hard by the coronavirus pandemic with the latest media reports indicating that more than 10,000 people in the country have been infected, making it the country with highest infection rate outside of China.

On March 8, 2020, Conte announced a travel lock-down and a quarantine in Lombardy:

After the announcement of the closure of Lombardy, hundreds of distraught people rushed to the station storming the intercity night train leaving from Milano Porta Garibaldi Station:



“Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of ‘life-years’ left even if they should survive, would be left to die.” – The Atlantic, discussing Italian Socialist Healthcare Guidelines for an escalation of the Wuhan coronavirus

As shown in the below RAIR Foundation USA exclusively-translated videos, socialist Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, a strong advocate of unchecked migration, announced measures to contain the coronavirus by quarantining the northern province of Lombardy, resulting in panicked Italians fleeing the area. The healthcare in Italy’s government run system is also being heavily rationed, with elderly people literally being turned away from treatment.

Open borders Italy has been hit particularly hard by the coronavirus pandemic with the latest media reports indicating that more than 10,000 people in the country have been infected, making it the country with highest infection rate outside of China.

On March 8, 2020, Conte announced a travel lock-down and a quarantine in Lombardy:

After the announcement of the closure of Lombardy, hundreds of distraught people rushed to the station storming the intercity night train leaving from Milano Porta Garibaldi Station:

An article in Scientific American touches on the factors that may account for the high death rate in Italy including the demographics of an older population, while the spread of the infection may be attributed to bad luck in experiencing the infection early before there was a high degree of awareness of the virus.

But another critical piece of the puzzle of why Italy is particularly hard hit which isn’t discussed by the mainstream media is offered up by David Vance at AltNewsMedia:

“Many Italians in Northern Italy have sold their leather goods and textiles companies to China. Italy then allowed 100,000 Chinese workers from Wuhan and Wenzhou to move to Italy to work in these factories, with direct flights between Wuhan and Northern Italy. This continued post outbreak, so is it mere coincidence that Northern Italy is now Europe’s hotspot for Corona Virus?

One of the most terrifying aspects of the coronavirus pandemic in Italy, however, is the outrageous and extreme rationing citizens face by the socialist healthcare system. A set of “guidelines” by the Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care makes chilling recommendations to be followed as the crisis deepens. “Instead of providing intensive care to all patients who need it,” the Italian experts suggest that “it may become necessary to follow ‘the most widely shared criteria regarding distributive justice and the appropriate allocation of limited health resources.'”

As reported in an article a The Atlantic everyone advocating Single Payer in America should read:

‘Informed by the principle of maximizing benefits for the largest number,’ they [the authors of the report] suggest that ‘the allocation criteria need to guarantee that those patients with the highest chance of therapeutic success will retain access to intensive care.’

Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of ‘life-years’ left even if they should survive, would be left to die. This sounds cruel, but the alternative, the document argues, is no better. ‘In case of a total saturation of resources, maintaining the criterion of ‘first come, first served’ would amount to a decision to exclude late-arriving patients from access to intensive care.’

There’s no question that Europe’s open borders put it at an extra risk for devastating outcomes from this virus, especially when one considers the latest migrant crisis unfolding on the Turkey-Greek border and the impossibility of testing illegals for the virus.

Twitter post made me laugh.

At first I was afraid, I was petrified,
There was no loo roll down at Aldi and I nearly cried.
Oh I spent so many nights just thinking how you did me wrong,
I used to wipe,
And now I’m forced to just drip dry !
No anti-bac !
No bloody soap,
and if you think you’re buying pasta well you’ve got no bloody hope !
I would have bought that box of eggs, I would have rationed out my bread,
If I’d have known for just one second everyone would lose their head !
Go on now go, walk out the door !
All you bloody stockpilers,
You are not welcome any more !
Weren’t you the ones who just bought all the sodding beans?
You selfish gits !
I hope you spill them down your jeans !
Oh no not I, I won’t panic buy!
Oh as long as I have alcohol, I know I’ll stay alive,
Though I can’t buy my usual cheese,
This will not bring me to my knees
And I’ll survive, I will survive, hey, hey !
It took all the strength I had not to fall apart,
There were just apples and 1 carrot in my shopping cart,
And I spent hours walking round just feeling sorry for myself,
The empty store, with boxes strewn across the floor
And you’ll see me, somebody who,
Cannot buy anything she came for, and it’s all down to fecking you
And frickin Reg from down the road is such a selfish blimmin git
Because he stockpiled all the loo roll so nobody else can have a shit !
Go on now go, walk out the door !
All you bloody stockpilers,
You are not welcome any more!
Weren’t you ones who just bought all the sodding cakes
Can’t you make a crumble,
Do you people not know how to bake ?
Oh no not I, I won’t panic buy !
Oh as long as I have alcohol, I know I’ll stay alive,
Though I can’t buy my usual cheese
This will not bring me to my knees
And I’ll survive, I will survive !

post of the year right there!! Maybe we should record it as a single and make a few quid!!

i'm just watching trump right now. he has no fucking clue what he's doing.

this is bad. he's gonna kill a lot of people with his ignorance.

It is heart breaking to see selfish greedy panic buyers hijacking vital shopping time for our NHS staff who are right in thick of this crisis. They should be ashamed of themselves and pause for thought and step back when these brave men and women face risks then times higher than the average person on the street with the work they are doing.

The police & army now should be deployed to bring law and order down hard to these greedy people who are showing no compassion or thought for those who are doing the most difficult, dangerous and most incredible job in this.

I know I said I wouldn’t be posting anymore on this subject but I feel I need to get something off my chest with regards to this, those with a sensitivity to swearing I apologise;

I am genuinely gobsmacked that with all the advice given about social distancing and recommendations to avoid groupings/social gatherings that moronic idiotic fuckwits cunts are doing the very same thing that they’ve been recommended not to do. I mean how fucking stupid do you have to be with everything thing that’s happening to do the exact thing not recommended?? Clearly these fuckwits are imbecile levels of stupidity. Because of these fuckwits inevitably this whole thing will last longer then necessarily needed plus will no doubt cause more people to become ill and potentially die.

We’re heading for lockdown possibly too late or possibly it may have been avoidable we’ll never know but the fact is if the stupid fucking moronic fuckwit cunts had just thought about other fucking people rather than being selfish and ignorant and used the all too rarest of rare things.......COMMON SENSE, things could have been different. Instead they spend the last few weeks/days doing the opposite, especially the panic buying fuckwits. One thing is for sure I doubt I will feel much sympathy for any of these fuckwits if they catch this or lose someone to it due to not following advice, it was clear.

Feels better.

Couldn't put it better myself. I totally agree COMMON SENSE has been THE REAL UNDERLYING victim of this virus. When this all over I hope all the fuckwit moronic wankspangling idiots are hauled into courts up and down the land and are given big hefty fines for all the stupidity they have heaped on the system and everybody else around them, and they're banned from all supermarkets and the fines are fines that will take them bloody years to pay back. Couldn't care less even now if bailiffs turned up at their door to take the stuff they have stockpiled back to the shops, & the shops then re distributed it to NHS staff and more vulnerable people who haven't been able to buy the stuff they have been so greedily stockpkilng

(22-03-2020 22:47 )terence Wrote:  i'm just watching trump right now. he has no fucking clue what he's doing.

this is bad. he's gonna kill a lot of people with his ignorance.

Between Trump and the general mindset of a lot of Americans regarding civil liberties (the Republican lunatic fringe are already branding the current restrictions as 'communism' ) the US could end up a third world country by the end of this.

And the rest of the world will be too busy picking themselves up afterwards to give a fuck.

Maybe we should start helping Trump with the wall. We might need it to keep them in...

Or make New York a maximum prison state like that movie?
Do we have enough LEGO bricks to donate for it? I reckon thr rest of the world probably would be about six month ahead of the US when it is over

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(22-03-2020 22:47 )terence Wrote:  i'm just watching trump right now. he has no fucking clue what he's doing.

this is bad. he's gonna kill a lot of people with his ignorance.

He makes Boris look intelligent or is the other way around?

(23-03-2020 08:01 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  ...Between Trump and the general mindset of a lot of Americans regarding civil liberties (the Republican lunatic fringe are already branding the current restrictions as 'communism' ) the US could end up a third world country by the end of this....

tbh i can't see how you could even think abojut wiping your arse wih AK- 47 - IT'LL BLOODY HURT!!