Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it?

(13-05-2020 13:56 )Tractor boy Wrote:  ^ also once the pandemic is over, they can be worn for bank robbing, stalking, peeping or any other nefarious activity.

Are you suggesting that people who wear face coverings might be up to no good?

Tsk Tsk, off to the re-education camps for you, Sonny Jim

(13-05-2020 15:35 )Tumble_Drier Wrote:  

(13-05-2020 12:51 )Chrisst Wrote:  



I'm watching this on Ideal World just now.
Genivieve Ni Reomoinn is at pains to point out that they're not clainming any medical benefits but they're trying to fashionalise masks.
The worst thing for me is that underneath it is I think top Ideal World lady Shelagh Brayshaw. Why not just give 'em all burkas.

The same channel that was flogging £50 packs of bog roll when the Panic buying was going on.

It seems almost a lifetime ago when the biggest thing we had to worry about was how we going to be able to wipe our arses

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/foodanddrink/f...id=BHEA000

A month ago there were lots TV talk and column inches about the vaccine and when it would be available. Oxford University were extremely confident that they had the cure and it just needed testing. They mentioned that it could be available after September, and in the US they said between a year and 18 months.
Firms in Britain and the US are producing the vaccine in expectation.

But this week there have been several interviews where the opposite has been mentioned. Professor Winston, WHO, GMT's Dr Hilary and Boris have all said that a vaccine may never be available. Pointing out that we have never found a vaccine for SARS or even the common cold.

What's happened in the trials that they aren't telling us about.

Also experts have worked out the date when we can expect no corona virus deaths in the UK. - July 30th

(14-05-2020 10:02 )Charlemagne Wrote:  Also experts have worked out the date when we can expect no corona virus deaths in the UK. - July 30th

I'm sure that those experts would want to add that that's providing we continue to socially distance.

(14-05-2020 11:37 )Chrisst Wrote:  

(14-05-2020 10:02 )Charlemagne Wrote:  Also experts have worked out the date when we can expect no corona virus deaths in the UK. - July 30th

I'm sure that those experts would want to add that that's providing we continue to socially distance.

Whatever ... on July 31st I'm going to McDonald's.

(14-05-2020 10:02 )Charlemagne Wrote:  A month ago there were lots TV talk and column inches about the vaccine and when it would be available. Oxford University were extremely confident that they had the cure and it just needed testing. They mentioned that it could be available after September, and in the US they said between a year and 18 months.
Firms in Britain and the US are producing the vaccine in expectation.

this is a quote from the Oxford test team,

Now a study involving up to 510 healthy volunteers between 18 and 55 is under way in Oxford and Southampton, with three further sites likely to be added.

Scientists working on the vaccine have said they could know within six weeks whether it will work.

Sir John Bell, Regius Professor of Medicine at Oxford University, said “several hundred” Britons have now been given the experimental jab, with hopes that “signals” about whether it works could emerge by mid-June.

so we are about 1 month away form them knowing if it might work

(14-05-2020 10:02 )Charlemagne Wrote:  Pointing out that we have never found a vaccine for SARS or even the common cold.

There was SARS vaccine trialled in animals which was a success, as far as SARS was concerned. But it caused other problems with their immune systems.
By this time SARS had faded away so it probably wasn't cost effective to keep going with it.

I think there's more chance of a successful covid19 vaccine because of the sheer number of people working on it, the amount of money being thrown at it, and that science will have moved on since SARS.

I doubt there would be any money in developing a vaccine for the common cold because it's not a serious enough illness that anyone would buy it in large enough quantities.
A cure you could sell over the counter would be another matter, though.

The other big problem is I think any vaccine for Coronavirus probably may have an impact with the flub jab that most people have every winter, I would think if a vaccine was to become available, I would wonder if it would have to be administered say every six months or something so you could be covered over a year, but what time of year could you start a vaccination programme when vaccine could be most effective - beginning of winter or mid winter or early spring?

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Govt announces £2bn package for Transport infrastructure. Most of the problems have been with TFL who said they would have had to cut services if they weren't bailed out. And also, the ASLEF union rep who I heard on the radio this morning, was saying that they were telling their members to walk off jobs if they didn't feel safe. I get the feeling that once this is over the Unions will be squaring up to the Government, and I don't think BJ has the sort of Government that will force the Unions to back down.