US Election & Presidency

(04-10-2020 00:08 )southsidestu Wrote:  He looks terrible, absolutely shattered though on the plus side his skin is looking more natural

He's in his mid 70's, he's proven to have the most incredible stamina and resilience for someone of his age who has had to travel across the vast United States attending meetings with officials, making speeches at rallies and just before getting hit with the coronavirus. He's looking better than Boris ever did and Boris is several decades younger than him.

Then you should tone them down a little mate but you shouldn't force your view down people's throats and offer up views which I have to say, are probably too extreme for some of us and bordering on conspiracy level.

(03-10-2020 23:19 )Slabhead Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 20:30 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  A big fuss over nothing??? 200,000 dead is nothing?? And you think he's done a GREAT JOB???
You fucking need to get your brain into gear and have a proper Covid education!!!

Yes, it's merely a pinprick on your little finger. We've had infinitely worse pandemics in the past. The US has had 200,000 dead from 7.3 million infected cases. Globally a million people have died from 34 million cases. Not a bad ratio as far as I'm concerned.

Now I'm going to cause some major butthurt to those who suffer from the much worse mental disease of political correctness, so clench your anuses folk. In think human overpopulation is a terrifying problem and I don't feel aghast when a new virus like this comes along. I see this as part of nature trying to settle scores with the human race. Covid isn't anywhere close to being a substantial leveler but hey, carry on living in increasingly cramped cities with filthy wet markets and other unsanitary procedures and we'll see more and more outbreaks. I don't want to be callous but at the same time I'm not going to shed any tears as this planet is facing an ecological catastrophe.

And I see someone's compared Trump's handling of the virus to Chernboyl. Get the fuck right out of here lmao. Covid has affected almost every single country on one level or another. This isn't fucking Chernobyl. And yes, Trump lies. Big fucking deal. His lies overwhelmingly consist of numerous individual exagerations as opposed to the far more sophisticated and pernicious bigger likes of his predecessors.

Finally, if you want to accuse Trump of having blood on his hands, go right ahead. It'll be the digging of your own grave if you're even a little bit of an apologist for Clinton and Biden. I have a faiy hawkish view of the world so I don't necessarily buy this argument. But let's assume your supposed 'humanitarian' convictions to bring up Trump being an apparent accomplice to several hundred thousand deaths. How many such humanitarian liberals voted for Clinton in the past and are going to vote Biden? Two politicians who vehemently supported the Iraq War and other cataclysmic interventions? So shut the fuck up about Trump's supposed culpability lol.

Any leader who has little or no regard for it's public at large with this or any situation that the public at large in that country is put a great risk and the leader they trust fails them miserably has blood on his hands & to me, both Johnson AND Trump have failed - consistently.
Whereas other world leaders of nations with lesser wealth & standing, have done a far better job with the pandemic than the two of them put together.
The total deaths both ere and in the US are not what you expect from a nation of standing Many nations around the world looked to the US for a strong
lead in how from the outset on to handle the virus and it didn't happen. Had Trump showed a far better stronger outlook right from the start of the crisis the rest of the world probably would acted accordingly, Trump dismissed it and played it down and I think it was shocking he chose to do when the country looked to him for real leadership and guidance.

Like Blair & G W Bush they deserve to be standing in the Hague in handcuffs all four of them together. Four leaders who lied through their back teeth to their nation and have shown complete culpability in different situations. And I feel the charge sheet on Both Johnson and Trump is one that would make shocking reading.

And Trump's lies on the virus have finally bit him on his fat ass and that I hope that is the wake up call he probably needs.
If other presidents have released his taxes for all to see and in good faith & Trump hasn't (or won't) what does that tell you about him? He's been declared bankrupt four times but still thinks he is a billionaire, when he probably has fuck all in the bank, tries to pay off a porn star who he screwed behind the First lady's back which I think is disgusting and think Melania should have divorced him once it became public knowledge.

And you can't compare this to Iraq War either. That was a war that a great many people in this country never wanted us to be involved in and many of us on this forum probably have had friends/relatives who played a part in that war & died when they shouldn't have done.

And I won't shut the fuck up either, you need to take your views to another forum where they belong. This thread was bubbling along nicely till you decided to poke your nose into it.

(03-10-2020 22:47 )SecretAgent Wrote:  The timeline of events continues to crumble. Now reported that Trump did receive supplemental oxygen whilst at The White House. Also being reported he took 2 tests on Thursday and knew he was positive much earlier than has been claimed.

Chris Christie has checked himself into hospital and one of the Senators who tested positive took his test on the way to an event.... and still went to the event even though CDC guidelines say you should quarantine until you get the results.

Meanwhile Attorney General Bill Barr who was in close contact with a number of the ones who tested positive is not self isolating again against CDC guidelines.

What a shitshow

It seems to me that the timeline of events probably was kept quiet for long as it has, so as not to alarm the public, and feel the statement from the hospital probably was issued to make things look positive for Trump, when probably in all reality they probably couldn't be further from the truth. It was nice that NK's Kim sent him a get well message though. Did Putin send one?
Certainly is a shit show

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(04-10-2020 05:35 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  Trump, when probably in all reality they probably couldn't be further from the truth.

Getting the virus now is a masterstroke for the political strategists running Trump's campaign.
He's not available to put his foot in it (other than on twitter) and in a few weeks time he'll be back saying it wasn't too bad and that he and Melania got through it together.
American's will feel all warm and fuzzy about that just in time to vote.

^^ got through it together he bailed to walter reed first sign

What the Trump Administration needs to do now, is release the exact timeline for this week so we know exactly what happened and where & up to the point where Trump was tested I'd be stunned if the test doesn't show up in it which would suggest the test result that was released was done well before the events of this week. that would further speculate exactly how long Trump might have had it.

The video and photos that have been released of him are a laugh. Taking the photos first which purport to show him working - well if signing blank pieces of paper in 2 different rooms 10 minutes apart (according to the photo meta data) is working I’m King of America. At least it gives someone the chance to type “I resign” above his signature.

The video has been edited by the looks of it at around 1:06 when he probably coughs and as he praises the hospital just remember it’s a military hospital and the very definition of socialised medicine which he despises.

Also it has been announced that one of his valets at The White House has tested positive. Did DJT infect him?

208,000 Americans dead and count is getting bigger by the day, yet the media are obsessed with the health of a 74 year old white supremacist who has hijacked the Republican Party, and if defeated at the election will cause mayhem in the country. Trump is doing a better job of destabilizing America than Russia, China and North Korea put together. Republicans seem to have put their own personal career's before the country's interests, it does not bode well.