US Election & Presidency

Apologies if this is a repost but it is amazing

(20-10-2020 16:20 )TickleTheOrc Wrote:  

(20-10-2020 01:14 )Slabhead Wrote:  I'll say this, if Trump loses (and I mean properly loses without any skullduggery going on with the ballots) then I promise I will leave this forum.

So is that like a Trump promise to release his taxes? Or like a Lindsey Graham "I want you to use my own words against me" statement?

No, it's completely different, because nobody cares.

^^^ You say that, but I gotta be honest...

...I was a little disappointed to check the site this morning and not find a half-dozen posts from Slabhead to refute.

What the hell am I supposed to do now? Work!?

(21-10-2020 08:49 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  ^^^ You say that, but I gotta be honest...

...I was a little disappointed to check the site this morning and not find a half-dozen posts from Slabhead to refute.

What the hell am I supposed to do now? Work!?

I see he walked out of a “60 Minutes” ABC interview yesterday and then went on a tweet attack against the interviewer. The bit of the interview that was completed will be broadcast this weekend on a new show called “45 minutes and a tantrum”

(18-10-2020 22:13 )Slabhead Wrote:  You're naive and uninformed if you think Clinton lost merely because of a 'bad campaign'. She represented everything that ordinary Americans hate about career politicians. A completely uncharismatic person where it was no secret that she felt she had a divine right to become President. And the corruption, fucking hell she makes Trump look clean.

Learn some history before you dare put Trump in the same bracket as the fucking Nazis. Trump represents those who believe the nation state is a precious thing, and that the founding principles of the country are to be cherished. This makes him comparable to Nazis, how? I really want to know lmao.

And what a horrible thing to be, 'right leaning' lol. And your point?

Ok great lets deal with this. Firstly Clinton had a bad campaign. The Democrats did not legislate for voter apathy especially amongst their traditional voting class. Bad campaign management did not deal with the FBI scandal, her inability to connect with the blue collar/rust belt to the extent that she did not even visit Wisconsin during her campaign her campaign management was negligent.

If you think she makes Trump look clean you are an even bigger dumbass than the comments you are posting on here.

I know my history. I did not compare him to the Nazis' per se I said that his nationalist, self serving, partisan attitudes and policies have infected other democracies who have sought to achieve political capital by adopting a similar stance. If you check your history you will find those were the attitudes that developed the conflict of WW2

Maybe I was being diplomatic on the left leaning thing. The brand of policies Trump is communicating and advocating is Far right wing.

One other thing you said about the Black Lives Matter campaign I agree that the political organisation is not one that has helped itself with its weird policies and messaging but it really gets up my ass crack when idiots like you say All lives matter as if that should be ring fenced and put in a box for posterity.

Of course All lives matter its just that black lives matter now just the way female lives mattered 100 years ago when campaigning for equality and voting rights and Jewish lives mattered 75 years ago after the atrocities of the war at that time they needed a leg up and it was the right thing to do.

As one person explained to me its a bit like living on a street and saying all houses matter but the house on the end of the street is burning all the houses matter but that house at that time mattered now.

Finally I look forward to a Biden win so at least that orange mother fucker can get lost and as a bonus you will uphold your promise to leave the forum. Two for the price of one.

The lastest Financial Times polls show that Biden leads Trump 279/125 in the electoral College.

A footnote (via TV news feeds) is that there a few Republican voters who are too ashamed to admit that they will support Trump. So the polls may be closer than shown.

Trump may not be paying much in taxes in the US but he has paid $188,561 in taxes to China

The tax was on the interest on previously unregistered accounts that he holds there.

The FT prediction is showing a Biden lead of 207-83 if you only look at the 'solid' states. Biden gets up to 279 with the inclusion of States that are 'leaning' Democratic, which include much of the rust belt that Trump carried in 2016 (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.). Some of these still look competitive and if Biden loses just one, he falls below the magic 270.

That said, the FT prediction has 134 electoral college votes that are considered 'too close to call' and therefore up-for-grabs by either candidate. If Biden picks up Florida or North Carolina or Ohio, then he can afford an upset in one or two of those rust belt states.

The theory of the "shy Trump voter" goes hand-in-hand with the belief that 2020 will play out just like 2016. It's okay that Trump is trailing in all these battleground states, because they are all stuffed with "shy Trump voters" who will come out en masse on election day.

I don't really buy it to be honest. Pollsters started promoting this theory after 2016 as an explanation for why they got it 'wrong' -- instead of just saying the truth: "We're pollsters, not fucking fortune tellers!"

A more plausible reason for polling misses in 2016 -- especially in State polls -- was sampling error. Their samples under-represented key demographics like white non-college educated voters -- a group that broke heavily for Trump. So, yes, a lot of Trump voters were missed, but not because they were "shy" -- it was simply because they weren't asked. There's a good chance that at least that bias has since been corrected (...which is not to say that other unknown biases haven't crept into this year's samples).

The bank account itself is a non-story. Set up long before he was President and not used in years apparently.

The tax thing however, does not play at all well.