Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it?

To be honest, I don't need Nicola Sturgeon telling me she wants to cry.

All of them should have had the balls and foresight not to announce a relaxation so far ahead in advance; trying to spin now that it's all down to this mutated strain seems a bit disingenuous to be honest.

This is the fiasco we had after summer relaxations all over again.

Just lock everything the fuck down and stay locked down until we're bloody rid of it - this yo-yo ing is doing more harm than good.

"Oh the economy" - like you can have an economy without people; like an economy isn't supposed to serve the people not the other way around. Who's going to ask for their borrowed money back? Who's going to be around to collect it ? Governments can and should afford to borrow and support everyone to ride this out until it really is gone.

Biden has spoken out about Boris' plan and as for work for me? once we (Hertfordshire) go into Tier 4 tomorrow I think I will get a call tomorrow about work,
or I'll find out Monday when I turn up at 10am We were lucky through the last lockdown we stayed open but I don't think that will happen this time around
and definitely will be on my own on Xmas Day for sure

Think the pressure on Boris to scrap the relaxation had been building through this week.

(19-12-2020 19:57 )M-L-L Wrote:  ...is enough being done to contain it ?

Clearly not.

And in Scotland we're all going into Tier 4 on Boxing Day for 3 weeks - so a lockdown in all but name.

Apart from the Orkneys Islands, the Shetland Islands, and the Western Isles which will be put on tier 3.

^ Yes, I should have said "mainland". Travel-ban between different Tiers and rest of UK is going to be enacted as law (though whether it is policed effectively is another question) so as I say, effectively a lockdown.

Only 3 days of work left at my place (2 1/2 for me personally) unless they choose to close early, which seems unlikely, but frankly they might as well, lots of people have taken holidays already, and little will actually get done in those last 3 days.

We then break up until new year, so I guess I'll be hunkered down for the best part of 2 weeks in my tier4 bunker, happy days. When we return in new year, we are under new ownership, as they are finalising the sale of our site, just in time by the sounds of it, as many other sites in the company are staying shut in new year on unpaid leave. Uncertain days all round!

We have gone from tier2 to tier4 in the blink of an eye, but the figures in my area certainly justify that, so we can't really complain. This leap from tiers 2 to 4, feels more like the very first lockdown rather than a return to the november lockdown, but it remains to be seen how well people abide by it. Much of the publicity here has been that the numbers have been rising because of people ignoring the rules and meeting up indoors for a variety of reasons, so we'll see.

Matt Hancock say new virus strain is 'out of control' in the areas in the newe Tier 4 and people 'shouild behave like they have got the virus'

Looking at the idiots packing themselves on to trains out of London last night I think the genie may be out of the bottle already.

(20-12-2020 14:28 )Tumble_Drier Wrote:  Looking at the idiots packing themselves on to trains out of London last night I think the genie may be out of the bottle already.

my mate works for GWR and hes told me he hasn't seen the trains this busy in months , no social distance, he is not checking tickets today to stay safe, fully expert cornwall to be level 4 in a couple of weeks once this lot of fuckers all get to there holiday homes, if we had a half decent gov they would have banned all travel out of level 4 as soon as they announced the rules it sould have been easy to predict that lots of people would try to leave level 4

Banning things doesn't stop people from doing them but personal responsibility does.

There's a bit of a shortage of that at the moment.

The Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Austria have banned flights and trains to and from the UK in an effert to stop the faster-spreading mutation of covid.

France and Germany are expected to be next.