Black Girls on the Channels

(21-01-2023 10:19 )ryuken Wrote:  https://twitter.com/sophiasmudgex/status...3477500929

@sophiasmudgex
Literally this. Just because I am a WOC it does not mean I want to indulge your racist fantasies. It’s not a kink, you are straight up racist and fetishising black women.

https://twitter.com/sabrinajadex/status/...7752786944

@sabrinajadex
Omg how fucked up is it that so many WOC in online work have had this exact request ?

https://twitter.com/sabrinajadex/status/...0512822273

@sabrinajadex
Thank you SO MUCH for speaking up about it, you all are probably part of the reason I have the privilege of not only declining racist privates but blocking and reporting the racists with an actual effect

https://twitter.com/sabrinajadex/status/...2593311753

@sabrinajadex
been going through them all, heartbreaking, especially reflecting on how much this happens. Thankful for the people in this industry who gave me strength and unity through the racism (including u sexy) + all the ppl I do shows with where me being black isn’t something to degrade

There's a lot that I could say about raceplay, and unlike on Xpanded's own defunct forum, where it was among a very broad range of topics, that were forbidden, I might not be censured and censored here...

I certainly don't dispute anyone's choice not to engage in raceplay, but neither do I agree with some of the political (and aesthetic) reasoning for such rejections, nonetheless.

On Twitter, up until recently, the main form of raceplay I've encountered, is mostly #bnwo: black new world order, which is about submissive snow bunnies, white women, and dominant black men.
However, who I've been inclined to challenge, are those who treat it not as something for the private sphere, but as a political programme in earnest.
Often these are white men, who are not only disposed to being cuckolded by black men, but also want to be feminised, by and for black men.
Some of the latter who tweet about bnwo, are happy to oblige, and whilst considering themselves to be vehemently heterosexual, sometimes seem to be more interested in white men, who are generally neither remotely transgender-identified, or self-identifying as gay or bi.

Albeit this does compete for space and attention, alongside a preoccupation with non-recreational sex, which as someone who has 'antinatalist pornutopian' in their profile, is not something that interests me.
Especially as the non-recreational sex, is for the purpose of "breeding out the white race", "white genocide", which prompted me to link a BBC website article on the origins of the term genocide, in exchanges with one idiotic white guy.

Something that is particularly disappointing is that the projected image of black men, is not necessarily flattering, and not just because of some of both the professional and 'amateur' porn performers featured, are far from Adonises.
As I said to a white guy who was challenging these memes, they seem to be mostly good for being 'a bit of rough/on the side', and sperm donors.

Notwithstanding, some of my interests do at least overlap with bnwo, as I would prefer to otherwise avoid putting 'black male', in any non-porn related profile. Plus, my liking for some trans women, and the odd, exceptional (non-white) 'femboy', means I wouldn't be sufficiently heterosexual for some people . Needless to say, that would include those who think that even anal sex with 'bio'-women, renders men 'gay'! Making it a good thing that I'm not someone who's hung up on such labels.

All that is partly by way of an introduction to selected links:

"Ain't everybody somebody fetish?" [sic] is a pertinent question, asked in the notes for this 'Black Payback' scene: https://blackpayback.com/tour/trailers/dickmatized.html

The producer/s of that website, evidently also produce 'Ghetto Gaggers', (among others, as indicated here: https://www.pornhub.com/users/facefuckingking/channels ) such as this scene featuring one of my favourite women in porn, #boobeous Afro-Jewish, Anglo-American, Alexis Silver, better known in retirement, as Rachel Brownstein: https://tour5m.ghettogaggers.com/tour/tr...ilver.html

There is certainly racism in porn, and other sex work, not that I agree with much of the prevailing understanding of racism, which is certainly more agreeable to me, in this 2016 article: https://www.cracked.com/personal-experie...-porn.html than in this article on interracial porn: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/coul...acial-porn clumsily and illogically damning it, jumping on a Twitter bandwagon in the global hysteria following the killing of George Floyd.
I have previously linked this article: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/boob...-butt-guys from that latter website, which more soberly comments on the characteristically absurd meme, that 'boob guys' are right-wing, whilst 'butt guys' are left-wing, which I did respond to, from a non-porn related Twitter account, where I was following someone who was earnestly making that 'argument'.
Also worth looking up, is the 2017 hysteria surrounding raceplay on the ManyVids web platform.

As part of my disagreements with contemporary anti-racism, I'm rather suspicious of a lot of academic research, but I think this American study that found that black women are "invisible", relative to even black men and white women, is worth considering: https://psmag.com/social-justice/the-inv...color-5560
It certainly chimes with instances I've been aware of, throughout my life.
I also think it's pertinent to the subject of this thread.

One of the problems with contemporary anti-racism, is that it mostly presumes that racialised differences in USA, have much in common with similar problems in this and other countries. I wouldn't agree, and not in a patriotic way, but as a proletarian internationalist.

One instance of how those differences have been obscured, is the 2014 row about a purportedly 'racist chair' artwork. That prompted an absurd 'debate' which split a splinter of the Socialist Workers Party, following some arguing in favour of raceplay.
The controversy had the hallmarks of American Maoism.
It made the pages of the Times, which is paywalled, and a jpeg I had is no longer available.
It's worth looking up generally, even if the labyrinthine character of left-wing political organisations, might be even more exhausting for those who are unfamiliar with them.
Also worth looking up, is black woman blogger, Mollena.

(21-01-2023 04:28 )seducedx6 Wrote:  In another thread, in this/these post/s: https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.p...pid2749022 I've returned to the question of the lack of women of non-European descent on these channels, especially Xpanded.

As to how much people are attracted to others with similar ethnicities, that's possibly a complex matter for a later post..
However, to paraphrase what I said on another forum, a few months ago, in response to a confused controversy about Joey Fisher having a black partner, and her being Jewish:

"It's somewhat challenging to describe the point of view offered, [that racialised differences are necessarily impertinent] diplomatically, but blinkered and naive, might suffice. 

Without necessarily being racist, or otherwise bigoted, one of the things many people are attracted to, are people's differences. 

However, those differences are also 'troubling' and 'upsetting' "triggers", for many others." 

That was part of my post in the middle of a few exchanges, but when I returned to that forum, a few days ago, I found that all the posts involved had been removed, in what was described as "thread cleaning"!
Suggesting that the forum moderators might be as hostile to complex discussions, as the poster who'd prompted it, by criticising someone who evidently had a problem with Fisher being with a black man (that latter, catalytic post was spared in the "clean[s]ing"!), in the first place!

Looking again at that aforementioned thread on another forum, it seems that the original poster who exclaimed that Joey Fisher was with a black guy, based on an Instagram post from a few years ago, wasn't being negative about it.
However, that was some others' reactions.
Although as might be suggested by my quoting myself from there, the initial response, and those who responded to me, was from some who reacted as badly to people's differences' being acknowledged at all.

Last night on TV BS had Kartel, Joa and Sabrina, can't be many times bs has had 3 black girls on TV the same night, it's good to see this happening and that I guess no one even though about it when they were booking the show,
It's not many years ago I had a talk with someone who was high up in a channel and they expected to me how they would only book one exotic girl a night, exotic being the turn used for black girls , as they didn't think the drawed as many calls as white girls,
If last night is anything to go by then the channels are going in the right direction now thankfully,

It must have been really hard for Ebony babes in the past 20 years of the channels to know that only 1 of them would get 1 shift per day.

I'm tired of Tanya Renai being the only Ebony babe that regularly does morning shows. There needs to be more in the afternoon too.

I would imagine that the 1 exotic babe per shift rule would've effected Asian babes like Nicole Snow, Jada Cameo, Flora Ivy, Abby B and the Twins too.

Maybe BS have relaxed the rules because XP are their only competition now, or maybe there was a recent demand for more diverse babes from punters.

Either way it's a good thing BS have finally come to their senses and are giving chances to all babes regardless of their race.

Caramel Ebony is a new babe on BS that has the potential to be a superstar.

Especially if they can get her to do a night show in MK, instead of home shows.

(26-03-2023 13:25 )ryuken Wrote:  I would imagine that the 1 exotic babe per shift rule would've effected Asian babes like Nicole Snow, Jada Cameo, Flora Ivy, Abby B and the Twins too.

You actually have evidence that there was ever such a rule?

My take on this whole thing is that, on their end, culturally black and asian girls were less likely to enter the sex industry than their white counterparts. More of a stigma in their community. So when that's factored into being a minority of the population in the first place, gave you the small number of them. And those that did were less likely, again for cultural reasons, to expose themselves to the likes of TV and lad mags and stayed in the likes of strip clubs.

On the punter and industry end, of course racial bias comes into play. But the likes of Ruby Summers, Savannah Mail, Sophia Lares and now Kartel Kay have always showed that there was always there enough demand but for the lack of numbers.

Seems to be a cultural shift nowadays where you see a lot of black girls in cam sites, social media and the likes of Onlyfans. They seem more comfortable and profitable to stay there too than go to the dying platform of the babeshow.

^^^

My comment that you highlighted was based on Winsaw's comment:

"It's not many years ago I had a talk with someone who was high up in a channel and they expected to me how they would only book one exotic girl a night, exotic being the turn used for black girls , as they didn't think the drawed as many calls as white girls,"

(26-03-2023 13:25 )ryuken Wrote:  I would imagine that the 1 exotic babe per shift rule would've effected Asian babes like Nicole Snow, Jada Cameo, Flora Ivy, Abby B and the Twins too.

In November 2020 the Babestation schedule had Nicole, Abby B, Preeti and Priya all booked on the same night. For 3 of those 4 to be booked on the same night was actually quite common around that time.

LouLou Love, Tia Lane and Cherry Leigh are cracking new additions to BS' Ebony roster.

(26-03-2023 23:09 )Preeti Fan Wrote:  

(26-03-2023 13:25 )ryuken Wrote:  I would imagine that the 1 exotic babe per shift rule would've effected Asian babes like Nicole Snow, Jada Cameo, Flora Ivy, Abby B and the Twins too.

In November 2020 the Babestation schedule had Nicole, Abby B, Preeti and Priya all booked on the same night. For 3 of those 4 to be booked on the same night was actually quite common around that time.

"It's not many years ago I had a talk with someone who was high up in a channel and they expected to me how they would only book one exotic girl a night, exotic being the turn used for black girls , as they didn't think the drawed as many calls as white girls,"

Based on Winsaw's post, the channels don't classify Nicole, Abby and the Twins as black girls.

Nicole could've easily appeared on the Thai Chat channel and Abby, Preeti & Priya could've been on the Masti Chat channel.

I don't think there has ever been a channel solely for Ebony babes.

Ruby Summers on RLC, Savannah Mai on BS and Sophia Lares on Elite would've been the closest to multiple Ebony babes on TV at the same time, but not the same channel.