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I expect nothing less from from you…
14-07-2024 13:16
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(14-07-2024 12:04 )lancealot790 Wrote:  Disgusting people on here trying to justify an assassination attempt on someone…

It's only worse with people over here (I am an American)
Lot of misinformation going around being treated as facts
The Media is facing a lot of backlash which let's be honest is driving a lot of people over the edge with their views and beliefs
With all this unconfirmed info coming out minute by minute, they are doing their due diligence before reporting anything as facts. I don't see that as an issue, but it's being view from distorted and misguided narratives.
Lot of hate coming from both sides of the political fence at the moment

A dark and disturbing glimpse going on with how a lot of Americans truly think and feel at the moment.

Give them less, they will pay more
Bring on the TARIFFS
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14-07-2024 15:29
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I am English born and bred so I have no real allegiance to either party in the presidential race, but I have been to America many times and have friends there. Right now the USA is in a terrible state, 33 Trillion in debt and getting worse by the day, wether it is giving money to the Ukraine or buying votes with student debt relief, Biden is giving away money like there is no tomorrow.

Crime is rampant and there seems to little the police can do about it, mostly because democrat lawmakers have decided not to bother prosecuting what they consider inconsequential crimes leading to a rise in far more serious offences.

The southern border is wide open allowing millions of illegals to literally invade the country, many of them on the FBI terror watch list.

The justice system has been weaponised to go after any opponent of democrat party, on the flimsiest of evidence.

DEI is being used to justify discriminating against white people leading to a drop in standards not only in the workplace but schools.

This is not just my opinion but that of my friends in NY and Vegas.
14-07-2024 16:49
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I’ll say, first of all, that I value your contributions to this thread, Lancelot.

It generally tilts left-of-centre, so we are always in danger of creating our own little “bubble” which is not healthy. It helps to have a different perspective. Years ago, that was provided by Slabhead, but his manner was unnecessarily aggressive and rude, which made for some fun debates but eventually I learned to tune him out.

As long as we’re declaring interests, I lived and worked in the US for almost 10 years, and have since stayed in touch with some family (New York, Texas) and many friends (Alabama, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle). Not a citizen and never voted, but I’m endlessly fascinated if not emotionally invested in the place.

I agree with some of your points above. Biden has tried to buy the “youth vote” with costly student loan forgiveness, and while I wouldn’t use the word “invasion”, I agree the Southern border is a problem that needs solving. I also think the Far Left has taken the DEI agenda — which is fine in theory — to a loopy, counterproductive extreme in practice.

But the point that intrigues me most is the perpetual angst about the debt.

First — whose fault is it? I just looked at the data.

Clinton added +$1.6 trillion to the debt and ran budget surpluses in his last three years. With tax cuts (obviously), two wars, and a financial crisis, George W Bush added +$6.1 trillion. Barack Obama added +$8 trillion through a combination of inherited wars, stimulus packages to get out of recession, and health care spending.

Trump added +$8 trillion in just four years, mostly due to tax cuts, defence spending, and COVID relief. Biden has so far added +$4 trillion, again influenced by COVID relief, the infrastructure package and social programmes (including student debt relief).

In short: every president of any political persuasion spends like a drunken sailor on shore leave. So I think it is less of an ideological issue than another symptom of cockeyed political incentives.

Second: is it really a crisis? A lesson that has always stayed with me from college economics is that debt — in isolation — tells us very little about a country’s economic health. What matters is debt-to-GDP and debt-to-deficit ratios. Put simply, when the debt is so large that you cannot pay the interest, or ALL you can do is pay the interest on your debt, then it’s a potential crisis.

Right now, America’s debt-to-GDP ratio is about 125%. That’s (a little bit) like having a $10,000 salary, and a $12,500 credit card bill. Troubling enough for a few sleepless nights, but not quite yet a crisis — especially if I used that debt to invest in things that might grow my salary.
14-07-2024 18:50
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(14-07-2024 12:39 )lancealot790 Wrote:  A quote from Biden five days ago “ it’s time to put Trump in the crosshairs “


Interpret that how you will…

A quote from Trump 8 years ago "maybe the 2nd amendment people can do something about Hilary Clinton"

Interpret that how you will…
14-07-2024 20:22
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Oh dear the lefty nut jobs have been let loose…

Please refrain from commenting and leave the talking to the adults…
14-07-2024 20:51
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(14-07-2024 20:51 )lancealot790 Wrote:  Oh dear the lefty nut jobs have been let loose…

Please refrain from commenting and leave the talking to the adults…

Mmm MAGA crazies let loose - read up on the facts and you might find that education is good for you rather than living your life resorting to cheap insults. Trump is the most corrupt US President in history (even if an assassination attempt is totally wrong)

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14-07-2024 21:01
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The loony left really are out in force tonight…

Isn’t it past your bedtime?
14-07-2024 21:08
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(14-07-2024 21:08 )lancealot790 Wrote:  The loony left really are out in force tonight…

Isn’t it past your bedtime?

Haha you really are MAGA crazy. Sweet dreams sucker

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It’s past your bedtime now off you go…DC.
14-07-2024 21:12
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